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  1. I think you've missed the bigger point. This isn't a rich vs. poor argument. Julio's actions matter regardless of the motivation. A rich man who makes poor use of his money early in life becomes a poor man later regardless of his motivation. The Falcons organization has made public the intention to renegotiate certain contracts after certain years, I suspect out of some thought that doing so would bring the players into the overall organizational plan for navigating the cap and staying relevant. They didn't hide any intentions. Matt's contract was the priority this year. Julio's was next year. I'm sure they thought everyone was on board with the plan. Julio has chosen to upset the apple cart for personal reasons and I'm hearing that his understandable motivation to "look after his family and future" makes this completely normal and is no problem. I vehemently disagree with that sentiment and it has nothing to do with the money in the end. It has to do with the action he's chosen to take at this time and it's effect on the team as a whole and the plan the team clearly laid out to all. It's out of character for the man that I imagined him to be I guess and my take on it is that Julio knows he's damaged goods and needs to try to go all in now for a new contract before it's proven that he's damaged goods. Those selfish motivations do not make this action understandable to me no matter how understandable the motivation.
  2. I think the bigger point is that the gross amount of pay is not usable money. Duh! That goes for us simpletons too you know. I think the point is that people don't understand the problems that having money brings and the things no one thinks about like, hiring help or keeping the Mazeratti tuned...etc. Somehow this is supposed to make me see the light as to the need for Julio to get more money. It ain't about Julio's motivation for his actions, or anyone's motivations for their actions, it's the effect of those actions that matter. That goes for all of us in life no matter our perceived status. Our motivations at the end of the day are meaningless. Ask Phil Mickleson about that. This seems to be the generational difference that was referred to earlier. One generation feels that it's the action taken that matters and the other feels it's the personal motivation for the action that matters. Any social mis-deed can be forgiven as long as the motivation for the deed is understandable. I know I'm ranting, and I apologize but i understand much more than you know about having and losing money.
  3. The comment that making money requires you to live a lavish lifestyle is ridiculous. This is a choice you've made. If big houses gather dust then maybe you don't need a big house. There are trade offs in life, you make your choices in life now and you pay the bill later. It's life's credit system. If you're in a field where your services will not be popular when you're 40 or 50 or 60, then you best be covering for that period in your life now. If that means choosing to live more simply now then small price to pay for not having to spend your days at 65 saying "Welcome to Wal-Mart". You have money to choose to live simply, most folks don't have that choice. No amount of money requires a lifestyle and any lifestyle that's over and above what can be supported by your money is your bill to pay later in life not mine or anyone elses. Julio is well compensated. Let him eat cake!
  4. Actually I think that when the salary cap began and teams like the 49'ers began finding ways to circumvent the intentions of the cap back in those days, that's when the NFL contract started to evolve into an instrument akin to a legal tax dodge. The up front bonuses that can be amortized for the life of the contract allowed teams like the 49'ers to keep the nucleus of their team together and continue their domination. Then came the NFLPA and agents who realized that back loading a contract with huge roster bonuses would effectively require teams to renegotiate contracts early. So the 5 year contract was actually in effect a 3 year that would be renegotiated after 2. Then you have the guaranteed money that has entered the scene and the Julio case is sort of the test case if you will for another evolution of the NFL contract that basically will change the effective term of the contract into only the years that contain guaranteed money. In my opinion this has more to do with evolving the compensation system than just Julio trying to feed his family. This is the beginning of something that will certainly hve to be addressed by the next CBA. Not sure if th NFL has mid-term bargaining built in that allows for amendments to the CBA to be bargained but if 5 yr. contracts have been reduced to 2 at this point, it will only get worse. The only remedy for the team at this juncture would be to spread the guarantee throughout the full term of the contract which in effect voids the 'Tax Dodge' aspect the owners have used since the beginning. More here than meets the eye at first glance folks.
  5. I've got no issue with either party looking after their best interest. That's the way of the world. You also have to accept that the team has to look after it's best interest and if you're Julio you must know that when you take this tactic, you force the team to act on it's own behalf sooner and maybe at an inopportune time financially for them. By doing so, you bring in to play many things that may not have been considered before, one being trading the player. I don't think trading Julio was even number 100 on the list of possibilities up until he places the team into the position that may move trade way up that list. As a fan, I don't want to see that happen. I certainly hope Julio feeds his otherwise starving family but for me, I just want to see the team prosper that I've let be part of my life for far longer than Julio has walked this planet.
  6. I just love to hear people who are probably scraping out a modest living for their family go on an indignant poor man vs. rich man rant when the so called poor man already has 75 million bucks in his pocket for services rendered. I have to shake my head about that. I especially love the "He's just trying to feed his family" comment. What? I'm trying to feed my family, he's got his fed already for life and he's 29. In 1968 or 1978 there was a good argument against the owners and for the players but today in 2018 I think you can rightly say that the owners and players are all getting they're share. Don't get me wrong, I think there are plenty of owners like Jerry Jones or that guy in Cleveland that are headstrong a'holes and there's no love lost from me for those clowns but in this case let's just accept the fact that both parties have their own best interest at heart and a cooperative arrangement can be made that doesn't hurt another and, in my opinion, the most important person in this deal.....me....the fan. Capitalism is when services offered and compensation offered for such services meet in equilibrium so as to acceptably benefit both parties. If these two forces are equal then you create the one thing that drives everyone to greatness...Incentive, which is key to the system and something that all other systems lack. Let's hope they come to an agreement that doesn't hurt our incentive to watch.
  7. As I said in another post, it's perfectly understandable that Julio would try to look after his own interests as we all should. The team has it's interests to consider also and it has been very public and above board with it's plans as far as who they want to re-sign and when so as to keep the train rolling so to speak. Julio's renegotiation was to come up next year even though there would be 2 more years left. The team negotiated the contract so as to make it a necessity to re-negotiate it after 2018 due to the cap hit. Matt's re-negotiation was to be this year. This has all been public knowledge and discussed over and over on this forum for the past couple of years.I don't think the team has been underhanded in their dealings with Julio in any way. They've been public with their intentions on contracts so far. Julio is using his leverage to get a new deal now, I think it's only reasonable to consider whether it's worth doing. The Pats have been pretty successful with letting guys walk that were in this situation. When it comes to trade leverage the team has it right now. That might not be the case if Julio can't produce next year. It's a business and you have to make hard choices. If you had a great car for 7 years would you take out another 4 year loan and buy it again?
  8. Julio has received 16+ Mil for the 2011 thru 2014 seasons and 47 Mil for the last 3 seasons and he's due to receive 12.9 Mil this season after which the cap hit is so large that it behooves the team to re-negotiate. Why would a person like Julio do something that seems so out of character as to try to hold the team hostage for a contract that was going to be re-negotiated after this season anyway? Some say T.O.. I don't think that has anything to do with it but what then? I can only think that he believes his performance this season could only hurt his leverage. After seeing the effect his foot injury had on him last year, I can see why TD might have some reservations as to jumping into a new deal. The window is open for the Falcons right now and a hurt Julio with or without a new contract closes that window for 2018 a good bit. A hurt Julio with a new contract might close that window indefinitely. It's a tough choice to make. What about trade possibilities? Would you trade him to the Chargers for example if you could get Keenan Allen and their 2019 number 1? Just to get the conversation started. Would you consider trading him at all and why or why not?
  9. Julio has received 47 mil over the last 3 years and is due to receive 12.9 mil in salary this year with re-negotiations coming after this season. This doesn't look like the "Man" has his foot on the neck of the "Peon employee" to me. Why would Julio do something that seems completely out of character? Forget the whole T.O. garbage. I can only think that he can't wait until the off season because he knows his performance would hurt him rather than help him. This gives me pause and I'm sure it does for TD as well.
  10. BS answer like, "There's a salary cap and we're up against it?" Look, I get it. Julio is hurt. He's been trying to play hurt his entire career. Last year it effected his play and he's getting older and the guaranteed money is gone from his current deal. I get his need to try to get what he can get before he has to get on the field again and 'possibly' show that he can't perform as he once did due to injuries which would destroy his leverage. It's a business. The team has business to take care of too. You can't pay a guy for past achievements. You pay him for future performance and the question is, are you going to get what you pay for with Julio? Straight up question. Look, I love the car I have now. It has done me well for 7 years and I still like it. Would I pay the same or more for it now with a new loan for 3 or 4 more years just because of the great performance it has given me? If the team thinks it's worth it and there is no way to the Lombardy without him, OK, do the deal but if the answer is that they think they can't afford him then trade him and move on. Such is life. I do think Julio sprang this on them a bit late in the process and I don't see how his needs somehow are more important than the team's. My only thought is that Julio may know he can't perform well enough this year to get what he hoped to get when the promised renegotiation comes after this season so he went all in.
  11. Football ain't like baseball and basketball in one very important way. Baseball and basketball are regional interest sports. There are so many games during the regular season that fans in L.A. won't watch the Braves play the Marlins or the 76'ers play the Nets during the regular season. Because of this, teams have to get TV revenue regionally and some teams can do that because of regional networks like TBS used to be. The Yankees and the Cubs don't want to share revenues with the Brewers and Twins, etc. Revenue sharing is a big part of the NFL cap because the National popularity of each regular season game allows for massive National TV contracts to be negotiated and evenly distributed. Baseball and Basketball don't have this luxury.
  12. I'm no expert on the cap but from my understanding the cap is based on a percentage of revenue that is designated for salaries. The NFLPA negotiated the percentage in the CBA and I believe it is close to if not exceeding 60% of all revenues that go to the players. Considering expenses outside of salaries, I don't think the owners are making a killing on profit. They are however making a killing on the evaluation of assets when it comes to the sale of the team. This is why the investment is worth it in the long run. Without this increase in equity there would be no NFL as you know it today. This idea that players receiving 60% of the teams revenues in salary , which amounts to huge contracts for the players by the way, is somehow akin to slavery is an affront to those who've experienced the real injustice of forced servitude. Time for some folks to regain some perspective. Prior to the cap, there were some teams that put the minimum effort and money into the team in order to maximize profit which was still in those days driven mainly by the gate receipts. Our beloved Falcons were one of those. The cap, and it's minimum requirements and maximum limits derived from revenue percentage dedicated to player salaries has long solved those issues. Baseball would be better off to follow the example so you don't have teams that become AAAA teams for the Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox, and Cubs. The Braves by the way are one of those. Second contracts come around and the likes of Acuna and Albies will be gone because of ownership priority is the bottom line.
  13. They already turned it into flag football.....penalty flag football. The NFL estimates that the new lowering the head rule will generate an average of 5 flags per game according to Pat Kirwin on Sirius NFL Radio and he thinks that is underestimated. He also thinks, and I agree, that this rule is such a judgement call that it can not be called consistently and there will be many non-calls and it will introduce another reason for fans to claim unfair treatment and favoritism toward certain teams. This causes more fans to turn away from the NFL than anything else in his estimation. Outside of that, 5 more flags per game. It truly has become flag football.
  14. Ludicrous that football will die because it's too violent. We have a sport in boxing where the whole purpose is to try to cause a concussion and it's dying because it's not violent enough. In comes the UFC. There may be some validity to the fact that parents won't let their kids play but the NFL is as much to blame for acting like they want to destroy their own sport and whipping everyone into a frenzy by calling themselves too violent. I understand the nfl was complicit in covering up the facts but that's been handled. No player playing today is doing so in ignorance. The sport has actually gotten progressively less violent over the years. It's the wussie American kids that have been produced over the last 30 or so years that have gotten too soft for the game. Soccer is a pointless game developed to keep kids in poor nations busy. It's cheap. You throw a ball into a field and you go kick it while Mommie goes and gets her afternoon delight. Americans used to require more intricate, productive sports. Now we've regressed to be like the rest of the unproductive rabble.