TheDirtyWordII

At the same time...seems awfully uncommitted to Ryan (and Julio for that matter)...while recognizing Derrick Henry matters.

The priority should be winning a championship, not seeing whether it can be done with Matt Ryan. He’s 0-13 in that category.

Who over the last 8 years won the same amount of games as our dominant franchise.

When the rules are selectively applied, not based on the action, but by the subject...then call it what it is. Not a Code of Conduct, but an exercise in implementing ‘groupthink’. I abide by the rules here. I got a 30 day suspension for bumping a thread. It was deleted and I made another thread commenting on that action. Where in the CoC does it state that not being permitted? Meanwhile, someone insinuates I was molested as a child...? Nothing? Have you ever met someone this happened to? Let me assure you, it’s not a joking matter. Yet the greater crime here was bumping a thread or using the term ‘nuthugger’. If that made the Mod in question feel powerful...so be it. But since that action happened to me, I’m also within my right to comment on it as well. Privately or publicly. As to the original point, if the task of enforcing these rules is so onerous, why are they in place, particularly since it’s an unpaid role? Do we really need to move a thread because it’s not Falcons related? If we want to talk NFL, NCAA, Draft, do we need to be so spoon fed that our eyes need to be protected from such crime like off-Falcon topic discussion? We’re all Falcons fans here...they’ll likely be the primary topic of discussion, even if it’s contentious.

Enjoying the 1 game = 8 seasons intellect here. Whats really interesting is that there is another organization that’s gone 57-71 during the same time stretch. The Detroit Lions. ...and when their QB said, it’s time for a fresh start, the Lions said ‘you’re right’. Not ‘what can we do to change your mind...show you that we’re committed to putting the right people around you’. Yes...Stafford’s contract makes this an easier exercise. It you think Fontenot is going to look at Ryan’s contract as an impediment. The OP leverages Ryan in the best way possible for his remaining time here while building for the future. Not some ‘maybe’ fate of recapturing 5-10 year aged level of play.

I never left. Facts is facts.

It kind of does...if we draft an elite one, the team will likely be much improved. This disassociation of the quality of QB play and the teams performance is really puzzling. I guess when you’re conditioned to celebrate a QB whose gone 57-71 for 8 seasons, you’ll settle for the drippings of the successful versus finding a genuine path to success.

Nope...have only ever been TDWII. Keep searching Clouseau.

I’ve been here since December 31, 1969. How’s fractions class coming along?

The year is 2025. Who do you think is the better QB? Herbert or Ryan? The chances are (significantly if not overwhelmingly) better that it’s Herbert. Those that defend Ryan do so based on his legacy, not on his potential. Matt Ryan has not been a benefit to Terry Fontenot.

It’s no skin off my back if nothing changes...but if an Admin wants to whine about the fact they do this voluntarily...it sounds like it’s taxing them in some way. At the same time...if that Admin comes in and starts lecturing me on responsibility, you can bet I’ll come back strong at them.

Not for anything, but why do we need content police outside of vulgarity/lewdness? Here’s a system...poster reports vulgarity. Admin removes vulgarity. If it happens again...admin bans vulgar poster. The fact the the Administration here wants to make things complicated is on them.

This doesn’t seem like a difficult concept to grasp. And yet we’ve seen how blind folks can be in their loyalty to a franchise icon. Are the Chargers thinking QB after drafting Herbert? No - he balled. Are the Dolphins? Possibly...he didn’t ball. But it goes to show you just how vital the position is. There is not even a close #2 in terms of importance.

I just checked the COC...with the exception of the NH comment (which I was warned for)...where was the violation? ...and we could likely go thru this thread and pick out some name calling if you’d like. Make sure you’re doing your job correctly.

So being pompous is a greater crime here against the CoC than painting someone as having been sexually abused as a child? I don’t have any personal relationships here...and I’ve been here for two decades. Allows me to not care about any of the slights or ‘blasts’ as you’ve put it. I come here to joust. But if you think you’re a steward of some type of fairness doctrine related to what goes on here, I laugh at your double standards.

I really didn’t do anything different than anyone else here. You just took offense personally. But someone who made light of pedophilia got a knock it off. Don’t you dare try and lecture me about responsibility since you clearly shirked yours.

Yep...that’s what I got suspended for. Meanwhile the guy who surmised someone ‘touched me as a child’ got a hand slap. Look in the mirror dude about your special brand of private justice.

Geez...when you get the masses to spew conspiracy theories, you really know you’ve got them flustered.

Welcome to Don’t Mess With My Sacred Cow Ville. It’s always dark in here...

Was your original quote on Ryan’s 7-9 record in 2018 about worthiness for an MVP? I can quote it. Versus rookie year QB performance? Consider me your Jules Winfield teaching you about sports. Setting the bar low is an institution here.

Go survey objective football people. Ask who’d they’d rather have? Then start eating your humble cookies. My hands are clean.

One is a 23 year old kid with a 10-15 year career in front of him. Ryan is a finished product. You need a map here to understand the difference?

Not to get off topic, but while Mayfield came back nicely this year from a terrible Year 2, I’d say his leadership traits which were in abundance in college, have teetered as a pro. Its a different ball of wax leading grown men v college kids and I’d say that he hasn’t been great in this area. And what’s also important is to ensure the production and skills progress at the same pace. They physical aspect of the game can’t be compartmentalzied. Ryan Fitzpatrick is a GREAT leader...but his physical skill set and production, or lack thereof, invariably always show up. And thus his teams ceiling is capped. He can get a team from 4 to 8 wins...8 to 12? Nope. But we’re on the same page.

Truth be told...you can’t identify it during the draft process. An NFL QB has to grow into being this type of foundation. How Justin Herbert leads the Chargers in 2021 will be significantly different than 2026/2031. Right now, he’s precocious young gunslinger. He won’t be that 10 years from now...he’ll need to evolve into something/someone more than just a QB running an offense. Thats what the folks here don’t get. The best QB’s make their team greater than the sum of their parts.

If a QB has a good season that doesn’t lead to team success...what was the point? Listen, if it’s Justin Herbert having the season he just did...you can say ‘Wow! I know we went 7-9, but we’ve got the QB position settled for the next decade plus’...that gives runway for positional and leadership growth. The Chargers will grow around Herbert moving forward. Everybody equates good QB play simply with statistical production. A QB is soooo much more than that. If you think you have a franchise QB, he embodies the entire spirit and ethos of the entire franchise. You think TB is where they are just because Tom Brady had a great statistical season? He had that, but ultimately he instills an unconditional belief in everyone around him that they’re going to win. That’s the tide that raises all boats with him. It’s why he’s on his way to his 10th SB. Mahomes isn’t really any different in that regard. Surely the physical talent is jaw dropping, but the Chiefs are the Chiefs because the foundation they have with Mahomes as the centerpiece of that franchise gives them a confidence in their ability to win. Ryan did that in 2016...not 2018.