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  1. 1 minute ago, lostone said:

    I appreciate your perspective on it.  I hate how the GOP blames the illegal  immigrants when you the people hiring them are also demonizing them.

    That is why Donald freakin' Trump (of all people) got 12% of the black male vote in 2016, and 18% in 2020 (he also got a 3% increase in the black female vote too (black females (IIRC) gave Clinton 94% of their vote in 2016, but gave Biden 91% in 2020), they want something done about illegal immigration too!  They gave Trump credit for saying he'd do something about it (that other stupid **** (locking up kids in cages and sterilizing the women is something NOBODY wanted or asked for, and Trump should roast in **** for that)!  The media tried to spin it like black males wanted to "be rich" like Trump was the reason.  GTFOOHWTBS!!!!  Not YOU Lost one, but in general!  I'm just being honest (hence the Skeletor avi change (supervillain))! :lol:👿

  2. 4 minutes ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

    What’s your deal with amnesty? 

    It's not a "deal."  Not for it at all, it's not right.  Wasn't for it when Reagan did it, i'd feel the same way if Biden did it! I am FOR immigration reform. The reason why I am against amnesty is because I don't believe that corporations and business owners should be allowed to exploit them for profit on one hand, while dems push that ******** narrative that they do jobs that no one else will do (have you passed by a construction site or road construction crew lately) on the other!  It ****ery all around.  Come to find out, a lot of hispanic's are against amnesty too, so I'm not alone.  I could go on, but I'll stop it there.  Don't let people like fraudulent asss Shaun King fool you with his list of demands, and Malcolm X tried to warn you (not you, but in general) about frauds like him!

  3. 2 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

    Tease my *** and you have and I can take it. But dude brought up Sanibel Island and I gave my little anecdote. Talking about a deli one could try if they go.

    You missed the boat on this one 31, and I've always got your back, but you're wrong on this one. Talking about a $6 shrimp salad wrap has nothing to with new or old money.

    Don't let the Lemmings get to you brother.

    What lemmings?  You already know I PROUDLY vote democratic, but I am fully aware they are FOS!!!  I don't like some of the **** Biden and Harris (that Grio interview makes me mad as all **** plus her record) has said or done, but I'll hold my fire on them for now.  The GOP gives me no option.    With that being said, if the dems  do some of the **** that is being said they will do (Amnesty), they will lose me FOREVER, and I will PROUDLY vote for Larry Hogan in 2024 and not think twice about it!

  4. 7 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said:

    If/when the Stimulus checks come out Biden needs to make sure he has his name on it, literally.  Also make sure to send a letter as well.

    Like it or not people/voters identified with it when Trump did it.

    Trump set the precedent so Biden might as well follow it ... and to be honest I will find it amusing when the GOP complains about Biden doing some of the same things Trump did.

    I read somewhere that Trump's name on those first checks explain (to a certain degree (along with Biden's gaffe about fracking)), what happened in south Texas!

  5. 3 hours ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

    Nice vacation spot, the wife and I did our coral anniversary there a few years back.  If one goes there I'd be remiss in not mentioning and Island secret, The East End Deli. We would ride our Hotel provided bikes down to the Deli for lunch and there famous shrimp salad wraps, out of this world. 

    You know I'm holding back on teasing you over your landslide prediction until after the race is officially called (we already know Trump's fat asss lost), but can I give you a little advice?

    We are all passionate about certain things, and from past interactions, you know I am passionate about things that affect my community.  With that being said, the way you write shows a real lack of humility.  Example, this response.  It would have been fine otherwise, but there are some things you sprinkled within that screams "new money" or "I'm not used to having ****!"  As Trump's wife, Melanie (I did that on purpose) said, "Be Best!"

     

  6. 1 minute ago, The Monarch said:

    Again, not trying to be argumentative - I was mainly just trying to point out that yes, many people have been calling for more than this for a long time.

    Sooooooooooooo, let me see if I understand you.  You honestly expect city, county, state officials to do anything "substantial" to these cops when they can't fire them for ******* up?

  7. 12 minutes ago, The Monarch said:

     

    No, the movement to "defund" the police precedes that by a long way, as it comes from the police/prison abolition movement, and has been led almost entirely by black women and men. Just one of the first times it got widespread recognition. It grew from those communities.

    Lord....................you didn't catch the first time I tried to point it out to you, why are you speaking for black men and women, I'm a black man!  I told you black people have been trying for years to get someone to corral those cops.  You repackaged what I said a spit it back at me at least twice!  If you want to have this conversation, let's have it!  It took WHITE PEOPLE to **** up that slogan by the way THEY ACTED, black people bear the brunt of whatever ******** reponses from the police that comes out of that!  Nobody told white kids to set up camp in Seattle and Portland and fight cops, that does nothing for moving US forward!  ****, if it were black people camped out like that, the cops would've had a ******* conniption fit!  What you're not getting is no one said abolish the police, which is what the GOP turned "DEFUND THE POLICE" into!  Again, if it can't be articulated in a manner that makes ******* sense, why run on it?

  8. 21 minutes ago, The Monarch said:

     

     

    I get that you think so, but it's true. Most of the people ****ting on the "defund" slogan (nationally, not in this thread) don't actually support the policies underlying it anyway. It's just like when the republicans insist that all you need to do to get their votes is to adopt their republican policies. Like, yeah, but that's not what we want. It's like capitalists insisting on how to best sell socialist policies. As if they want those policies to succeed.

    There is NO way to accomplish the goals of the defund movement which doesn't involve taking large amounts of money from police forces and putting it elsewhere. "defund" actually describes that, meaning it's an accurate shorthand. Other suggested shorthand (i.e., "reform," or "rethink") does not accurately capture the movement and is easy to co-opt by those not in the movement.

     

    With all due respect, black people been saying for years that something needed to be done about these rogue asss, racist cops (full disclosure, my dad was a cop for two years), and people said something about taking money from the cops for years, but it went over your heads (when the cops busted out that military grade hardware in Ferguson, that is what all of the collective gasps, WT F, WTH, where the cops get the money to buy that ****, y'all see this ****, got dam.............." came from)!  The current "Defund the Police" slogan came out of Minneapolis when the cops basically said, "if we can't brutalize black people, we're not going to patrol" and the police unions came out with their ********, the community said "Cool," and it started from there.  No one ever said they didn't need the police, just control those dummies and weed out the rednecks, and so it went!

  9. 1 minute ago, The Monarch said:

    Like, "defund" basically entered the general lexicon this year. Why didn't any of these policy goals happen before it came around if the messaging is the problem? What was stopping moderate dems and the GOP from ending the drug war and moving money to other poverty and housing and educational programs? Why is it that more people now are at least familiar with some of the policy goals behind it?

    Messaging is it, all right, and the messaging has got y'all thinking a three word slogan is the reason none of this **** is happening rather than that the three word slogan arose because none of this **** is happening. 

    You're reaching

  10. 6 minutes ago, The Monarch said:

    I didn't tell you that. Not sure who said "its a winning slogan" in Georgia.  I said it's just a slogan, a three word chant, and focusing on it is dumb when we could be focusing on the people out there who are explaining the movement's goals (can't help they're ignored in your media circles, I guess). I said that changing the actual slogan to like "reform the police" allows it to be highjacked by people who don't actually agree with the goals of the movement. Exactly what we've seen.

    Andrews, it means ending the drug war, which would simultaneously remove a massive chunk of the police's current load. It means taking that money they no longer need to fight a bs drug war and shifting it to programs that will help pull people out of poverty, increase housing, fight addiction, and hopefully reduce crime generally. It means having professionals trained in certain fields respond to crises within their fields instead of heavily armed police who are more likely to agitate a situation (and regarding your anecdote, there are plenty more the other way where a mentally unstable person ends up dead or injured because an officer is so ill-equipped to respond). It means demilitarizing police. And it means different levels of community protection.

    It is not an instantaneous thing - but that is what detractors want you to think, that it means day one no more police anywhere and chaos. But it doesn't. It would be a transition, with community leaders working to implement the process along the way.

    Another thing, the incident in Philly is not anectodal, it was all caught on video!

  11. 2 minutes ago, The Monarch said:

    I didn't tell you that. Not sure who said "its a winning slogan" in Georgia.  I said it's just a slogan, a three word chant, and focusing on it is dumb when we could be focusing on the people out there who are explaining the movement's goals (can't help they're ignored in your media circles, I guess). I said that changing the actual slogan to like "reform the police" allows it to be highjacked by people who don't actually agree with the goals of the movement. Exactly what we've seen.

    Andrews, it means ending the drug war, which would simultaneously remove a massive chunk of the police's current load. It means taking that money they no longer need to fight a bs drug war and shifting it to programs that will help pull people out of poverty, increase housing, fight addiction, and hopefully reduce crime generally. It means having professionals trained in certain fields respond to crises within their fields instead of heavily armed police who are more likely to agitate a situation (and regarding your anecdote, there are plenty more the other way where a mentally unstable person ends up dead or injured because an officer is so ill-equipped to respond). It means demilitarizing police. And it means different levels of community protection.

    It is not an instantaneous thing - but that is what detractors want you to think, that it means day one no more police anywhere and chaos. But it doesn't. It would be a transition, with community leaders working to implement the process along the way.

    Let me add, "Defund the Police" SHOULD NOT be coupled with stopping the "War on Drugs."  It dirties the water and gives another weapon to the GOP to not do **** about stopping the War on Drugs" *cough* *cough* black people *cough*!

  12. 4 minutes ago, Leon Troutsky said:

    I was told that message doesn't matter and that "defund the police" is a winnable slogan in places like Georgia.

    ****, you lived in Acworth, you already know that going to go over like a lead balloon! :lol:  These mofos better learn how to articulate what the **** they mean or the GOP will define it for you!  It'll get traction if people knew what it meant!

  13. 1 hour ago, The Monarch said:

    Lol they want me to send money to this man

     

     

     

    "Defunding the Police" is dumb as all **** if you cannot articulate what it is or make a cogent argument why, and is a losing issue in Georgia!  I know what "Defunding the Police" means to me (Does every cop need his own Dodge Charger to moonlight in?  How much gas does the police department need to purchase when your asss is moonlighting and let those cars idle for hours!!!  Unlimited overtime is a no no!  Take the MRAPS and other military hardware away from these cops (you bumpkins have better gear than anything I was issued)), etc.!  But if you REALLY want to know what "Defund the Police" means, take a look at what happened in Philly a few months ago!  The family dials 911 to get an ambulance to come out and take this guy to the mental institution to get some help, the guy is CLEARLY having a mental episode, his family and dam near the whole block is trying to calm him down, the ******* cops get there before the ambulance, everybody on the block (including his mother) is telling the cops what is happening, and don't shoot him.....................and these stupid ****s blow him away anyway!!!  That's what "Defund the Police" means to me, but hey....................................

  14. 22 minutes ago, JDaveG said:

    So nobody was violent until Trump supporters showed up, and then all of a sudden parts of Seattle are falling?

    I don't think that's "pretty well documented" at all.  And again -- why aren't they inciting violence right now? A lot of them think an election is being stolen.  If they are the problem, why aren't they doing the same thing in major cities where ballots are being counted?

    The most I'm aware of is some wing nuts showing up to polling places armed, but no shots were actually fired.  Why not?

    I'm on the outside looking in in this family fight, but yes, the violence was well documented, in Minneapolis, they have the white guy that started the riots (vandalizing the Auto Zone and the Target) on camera, IIRC, the Police precinct was torched by infiltrators (documented) and so on.  Let's call Seattle and Portland what it was, white kids fighting cops!  That **** disgusted most black people and had them HOT that it had turned into that!  That's just for starters!  When you see "ACAB" and "**** 12" spray painted on buildings, that told most black people all they needed to know about what was happening.

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