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  1. That's what good people in prayer groups do, they pray for you. They're getting their just rewards for those efforts now with God, he'll get his just rewards for his act here on Earth...for starters.

    Yeah Bob, you said it, that's what good people do, but, sadly, people have been conditioned to think the worst of black people, and only see color. We can't walk from the store, park in front of the store, go to the pool, play in the park, go to church, ****, do absolutely NOTHING, without getting killed! Just straight up demonization of an entire race..................with a truly nefarious purpose! Open you eyes people, it has started!

  2. Eh, I can't get on board with that one. Thinking all cops would shoot just because they're cops facing a black suspect is no different than thinking all black people wearing saggy pants are gang bangers to me and all the other stereotypes...

    Let me be clear, my father (R.I.P) was a cop for a few years, so whatever "itch" he might have had in his trigger finger was sufficiently scratched in Korea, and long and before he became a policeman, so I don't think all cops are/were bad! Don't fool yourself, cops show a whole heII of a lot more restraint when dealing with white people than they will ever show a black person! Mike Brown didn't get that treatment!

  3. you made a statement about statistics without listing a source or even stating the specific type of crime you were referencing. I went to check it myself and posted what I found and questioned its accuracy. no more, no less. it is the same thing that is done here all the time except this particular time you have an issue with it

    why do you have an issue with someone posting government statistics and at the same time questioning its validity? or asking you to provide correct information or the facts behind the statement you made?

    Dago, let's redo this, and I'll try to be clearer this time:

    (It appears) you're asking me to defend info I didn't write or cite! As for discussing it, what is there to discuss, it is obvious that the info was flawed, I pointed that out and you said that you knew it. The only people that will be mad when Uncle Sam finally (properly) classify Hispanics (or Latino's, IONO) are Cubans and euro-spaniards. Do I think it's neferious, I "think" the FBI got caught up in bureaucracy, but even they realize the error! Furthermore, I came back into this thread where you quoted me, but there were others that picked up on the flaw too, only more nuanced, but they thought it was BS too! Where's the problem? You act as if someone is here in D.C. with some and flames coming out of their ears mad at you, it's neither! I was being honest when I asked you to help me understand where you were coming from. So, where did we go wrong?

  4. So again, I was off because I was coming from memory! Your data, I have no clue, but I will say this, I don't know why the government is having trouble classifying Hispanics (not a race, but you already know this), but didn't have a problem classifying blacks (born in the U.S.) with the one drop rule. Pure data manipulation to me!

    But you do realize that you've proven the point that several of us tried to make in this thread, right? Good people being mislead that know better.............

    But again, stop projecting, but please articulate to me what was the purpose of quoting me, because I am truly perplexed as to your intent.

    Let me see if I can link to the entire article. Hope this works:

    http://breakingbrown.com/2014/03/white-on-white-crime-is-on-the-rise-so-wheres-the-outrage/

  5. Irritated? Really? Actually, I'm laughing at you, and I'll explain why. Is this your statement:

    Those ratios are nowhere near equal or within acceptable statistical margin of error.

    Sounds like a definitive statement to me! So, in other words, you admit that your data was flawed, but you went with that anyway, but I'm supposed to be angry because of that fatal flaw in your argument. Enlighten me please!

    But, I'll admit, that even I was off with my numbers (notice, I always say IIRC when I'm coming from memory), but I give you this (he!!, I don't know how to cut/paste without the highlights). Let me get out of this post and come back.:

    James S. Robbins’ response to the Zimmerman trial uses FBI data to prove this fact. In his article, “White on Black Murder: Who Really is Killing Whom?” he states the following: According to the most recent (2011) FBI statistics, of the 2,695 murders in which the victim was black, 91% were committed by people of the same race. Odds are if the victim was wearing a hoodie, the perp was too. The same pattern of interracial violence holds for whites. 83 percent of white murders in 2011 were within-race killings, and only 14% were black on white. These data tell us that murder in America is decidedly not a matter of racial hatred.”

    So again, I was off because I was coming from memory! Your data, I have no clue, but I will say this, I don't know why the government is having trouble classifying Hispanics (not a race, but you already know this), but didn't have a problem classifying blacks (born in the U.S.) with the one drop rule. Pure data manipulation to me!

    But you do realize that you've proven the point that several of us tried to make in this thread, right? Good people being mislead that know better, because otherwise, to go with data that you know is manipulated to counter what I said doesn't make sense, but you say you knew?????

    But again, stop projecting, but please articulate to me what was the purpose of quoting me, because I am truly perplexed as to your intent.

  6. are you really irritated because I tried to verify information that you posted? you made a claim, I went and and looked for info. I posted what I found, expressed doubts about its accuracy, and asked where you got your info

    why is that a problem?

    Irritated? Really? Actually, I'm laughing at you, and I'll explain why. Is this your statement:

    Those ratios are nowhere near equal or within acceptable statistical margin of error.

    If I am looking at the wrong statistics, please let me know.

    Sounds like a definitive statement to me and you asked me to show you where you were wrong too (and I see your last sentence too)! So, in other words, you admit that your data was flawed, but you went with that anyway, but I'm supposed to be angry because of that fatal flaw in your argument? Enlighten me please!

    But, I'll admit, that even I was off with my numbers (notice, I always say IIRC when I'm coming from memory), but I give you this (he!!, I don't know how to cut/paste without the highlights). Let me get out of this post and come back.:

    James S. Robbins’ response to the Zimmerman trial uses FBI data to prove this fact. In his article, “White on Black Murder: Who Really is Killing Whom?” he states the following: According to the most recent (2011) FBI statistics, of the 2,695 murders in which the victim was black, 91% were committed by people of the same race. Odds are if the victim was wearing a hoodie, the perp was too. The same pattern of interracial violence holds for whites. 83 percent of white murders in 2011 were within-race killings, and only 14% were black on white. These data tell us that murder in America is decidedly not a matter of racial hatred.”

  7. well exactly. I pointed out the fault in their methodology (or lack thereof) and asked if there was a better source available

    supposedly they have given Hispanics their own category starting this year (which will be 2014 stats)

    Then why post flawed data to prove your point? I missed something. Can't shift the burden of proof to me when you posted the info! Also, when I stated earlier the blacks and whites were statistically dam near the same, I was referring to the stat where 80 (something) percent of blacks die at the hands of other blacks, but for whites killing whites, it was in the mid-seventies (IIRC).

  8. Andrew, I went and took a look because obviously we all hear from the media that black people commit more crimes.

    According to the FBI database, white people account for 69.2% of all arrests. Also, what has to be factored is that the FBI lists Hispanics as white which means that it is overstated. By how much, it is impossible to say. Black people account for 28.4%

    According to US Census in 2013, white people account for 72.41% of the population (with Hispanics) and black people 12.61%.

    Those ratios are nowhere near equal or within acceptable statistical margin of error.

    If I am looking at the wrong statistics, please let me know.

    I would also like to add that I am not drawing any conclusion from this as we have no idea how much of the variance would come from racial profiling and targeting but I am sure it is a significant amount

    Sorry Dago, I can't take this seriously. Any site that conveinently forgets that Hispanics make up almost 16% of the population of the U.S., but can tell me EXACTLY how many blacks are in the U.S. is highly suspect (and I don't believe for a second the FBI forgot too) and proves my point.

  9. ..................It isn't blatant prejudice that has shifted the black community into segregated parts of town with no jobs and opportunities. It is the PASSIVE prejudice that is being overlooked that has resulted in these societal problems.

    NEITHER should be downplayed or overlooked. You fight ignorance with confrontation, NOT tolerance. When it comes to the hippies of the left, where they pillow fight over the topics, and the fascists on the right, that deny a problem even exists; As soon as they finally realize that it is changing nothing, or they wither away, maybe we can address these issues like men with a backbone instead of wimps that need a smiley sticker and a hand hold while we evolve out of ignorance as a society.

    I think I've shown that playing the "Cappy is a Falcon fan and an ok guy so I'll be tolerant of his prejudice remarks" has not made an inch of progress since you just cannot understand why someone may have a problem with it. "it's just that angry guy with a beef." No, it's your actions. It's your blatant refusal to acknowledge that what you said is as wrong as anyone else that we talk about in these types of topics. Beating around that bush for decades and centuries by sweeping it under the rug with a smiley face is changing nothing. Just look around you.

    ................ALL OF US SHOULD look in the mirror, as most people should, and as I have done, to hopefully stop the cycle of ignorance that happens on BOTH sides. We, as a society, need to stop being divided over petty issues like those SOME get hung up enough to rant about on ABF. While we're all fighting over dumb **** like that, the real perpetrators of these societal problems only chuckle at how well they can divide and conquer......................... One person at a time.

    Cappy, taking out the personal stuff, this is what I'm trying to say (see above,quoting Memphisto and changing some). Just take everything in context (and I'm not bashing YOU either.

    To be more than honest, Serge and Memphisto have summed up exactly how I feel (with the exception of the personal)! Mind you, I've never been poor and never lived in the hood either, but I can sure as all heII identify with the plight of all black males just trying to exist in the USA (again, mind you, I've never been called the N word (to my face), AND (from experience, the military (IMNSHO) is the closest thing to a true meritocracy that I have ever experienced)! Again, black males (and black people) just want to LIVE and not be the scapegoats for all that is wrong with America! Black people fought and died to be treated equally, and you will not find a race of people that bought into the American dream almost 100%, until the puppetmasters took over in the 80's and started to put the screws to us!!!

    To be honest, dam near everything that is blamed on blacks (for example, crime and welfare), we are either statistically equal to whites (or within the margin of error), or whites outnumber blacks by far, but you wouldn't know it by watching TV, listening to talk radio or politics (again, IMNSHO), which plays a LARGE role in shaping the minds of a lot of people, both good and bad, and perpetuating (mostly negative) stereotypes of black people! But as was said earlier, this is all part of a plan, and it is clearly being implemented. People need to wake up and see what is going on!

    My $.02

  10. Excuse my ignorance here but how has society been conditioned to see the worst in black people?

    Let me apologize up front Cappy, because in order to make my point, I'm going to bring up your statement from a few years ago (the same thing that Memphisto has been hammering you over), so bear with me, but please don't take what I've said as being malicious, ok?

    Society has been conditioned to see the worst in black people, because I believe, that is part of the overall plan of some truly diabolical and racist azz people/groups that have an agenda..................and even good white people start to believe some of the BS that is spewed by the media, and politicians, etc, that is put out there by the puppetmasters (say what you want to about Memphisto, he is 100% correct about the person behind the curtain). Well, give me some examples of conditioning Andrews_31, well, allow me:

    Cappy, you yourself took a ride through the hood a few years ago, and frankly, had diarrhea of the keyboard. I find it amazing that good people can ride through these impoverished areas and proclaim that everyone they see "sitting on their porch" is a lazy bum, but not stop to think, MOST of these people are in situations like that by design. Yet, these people are basically thrown into a "Thunderdome" no-win, hopeless type of situation.........and the best they can do is try and survive. Ever wonder about the projects, the hood, and think about why these people are concentrated in certain areas, no jobs to speak of within miles (****, most of what was there or available was relocated to Asia years ago), liquor stores on every corner, J.D. Byrider type raggedy azz car dealers on every block, predatory businesses rampant in the area, cost of living sky high (non owned by black people), CIA flooded these areas with the worst drugs known to mankind..........................but yet all you see are lazy bums sitting on the stoop drinking 40s, really? Want to know why a good person like you can quickly make that assessment without considering the underlying cause and why the area looks like a wasteland? You've been conditioned to believe that! But Cappy, you're a good guy and you acknowledge growth, but you see my point!

    I want to continue this conversation, but right now, I have to go to a meeting (yes, on Friday afternoon), so bear with me, hold that thought, and I'll come back later and finish what I was trying to say later, ok?

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