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  1. I agree he should stick with 12 to represent his 1:2 TD/INT ratio he will have in the pros.
  2. Keep him on the sidelines and allow fans to be blindly optimistic for another season before he's exposed.
  3. It's called bulverism. And these Ryan/Dimitroff homers are going to stick to it. "Oh you just don't like Ryan because he's white/not Vick" Please that has nothing to do with it. IT has everything to do with the fact that he was a reach in every since of the word just like most of our picks. Just look at the read on the players we took. Almost all of them have glaring questions about them 1 3(3) Matt Ryan QB BOSTON COLLEGE Matt Ryan doesn't have the arm strength of a JaMarcus Russell, and he isn't a dynamic open-field runner, but he is clearly the most NFL-ready quarterback in this year's draft class. He has better-than-average arm strength, he's accurate and he understands the game. A lot has been made of the amount of interceptions he threw during his senior season at Boston College, but it's important to remember that he didn't have a strong receiving corps and that BC put the ball in the air far more often in 2007 than in years past. 1 21(21) Sam Baker OT USC Injuries hindered Baker during his senior season at USC and his stocked dropped considerably leading up to the draft. In addition, he isn't a physical run-blocker who is going to consistently drive defenders off the ball. Six tackles have been drafted thus far, and Baker had been a top-three tackle prospects before his senior season. In addition, the Falcons' greatest offensive need is at tackle. Although Baker doesn't dominate the point of attack as much as you would like for a first-round offensive tackle, he moves well, gets into position quickly and can sustain his blocks once he's locked onto the defender 2 6(37) Curtis Lofton ILB OKLAHOMA Much like Nelson, Lofton isn't going to wow you with his natural ability; he doesn't have great speed and lacks the athletic ability to match up with running backs in man coverage. But he's a throwback inside linebacker. He's tough, locates the ball and is a strong tackler who can deliver the big hit. Although he has limitations in coverage, Lofton gets adequate depth when in zone coverage and his ball skills are underrated. 3 5(68) Chevis Jackson CB LSU Jackson doesn't have great speed or hip fluidity, so you're taking a risk if you put him on an island. On the plus side, he has excellent college experience at the highest level and he simply doesn't make many mistakes. He's physical in both coverage and run support. 3 21(84) Harry Douglas WR LOUISVILLE Douglas shows good quickness and has the agility to develop into a crisp route runner. However, he doesn't have elite speed and isn't going to be as effective stretching the field at the NFL level. More importantly, he's very lean, so teams are going to be able to push him around. 3 35(98) Thomas DeCoud S CALIFORNIA DeCoud doesn't have the burst or top-end speed to match up with slot receivers in man coverage. He's also an inconsistent open-field tackler. But he's fast enough to cover the deep half of the field and fills hard in run support. He has shown a knack for blocking kicks and is solid in kick coverage. 5 3(138) Robert James OLB ARIZONA STATE James is an undersized guy who struggles when teams run at him because he isn't big or strong enough to anchor. But he is quick enough to make plays in the backfield and has the ability to develop and play in man-to-man coverage. 5 19(154) Kroy Biermann OLB MONTANA Biermann played defensive end in college, but he's not big enough to play there in the NFL. As a result, he will move to outside linebacker. He doesn't have great speed, but shows good instincts in coverage and doesn't get caught out of position. 6 6(172) Thomas Brown RB GEORGIA There are concerns about his ability to stay healthy and he doesn't have breakaway speed. He reads his blocks well, though, and his small stature means linebackers have trouble finding him. He fits as a between-the-tackles runner and has good hands out of the backfield. 7 5(212) Wilrey Fontenot CB ARIZONA He displays natural knee bend in his backpedal, and fluid hips that allow him to change directions smoothly. He reads the quarterback's eyes and breaks on the ball very well, but he lacks overall size and will struggle to shed blocks in run support. 7 25(232) Keith Zinger TE LSU He is a reliable receiver who will be used more often as a blocker. He is a hard worker who plays form snap to whistle. He was not used much in college due to LSU's system and he lacks elite speed. He needs to improve his quickness out of breaks.
  4. The people who detract from the fact that we made questionable decisions by assuming people don't like the picks because they wanted specific players are what crack me up. Regardless of names, we needed Olinemen and Dlinemen help What separates elite teams from those that stink are not the promoted guys by the media at the skill positions. It's the above average guys in the trenches. If you want to see how important those guys are look at a team filled with skill positions offensively like Cincy or St. Louis and what those teams did last season. THeir QBs got drilled.
  5. And the one linemen we took is the one who is plagued with injuries.
  6. Sam Baker doesn't have questions about his potential It's about him battling the injury bug. If he stays healthy we could finally have a decent OT. That pick is the least of my worries.
  7. It's not that I dissapprove of the players so much as where we picked them. Building a contender is about getting VALUE with your picks. The Falcons got horrible value with many of their picks Take Harry Douglass for instance. He could be solid, but you can get a Harry Douglass in ANY round. Taking a guy like that while solid DTs that could start for your team are left in the draft, is atrocious. Or take Lofton. There are guys of his caliber that you could have gotten later.. Just all kinds of reaching for players in this draft.
  8. Harrington was also a 3rd overall pick. He's one of those guys with more INTS than TDs in his career and with Ryan's poor decision making skills combined with his average physical tools, there is no reason to be overly confident that he won't be yet another one of those guys
  9. Great. No arguments to justify the absurd pick so go off topic. I came to turns that Vick was gone 6 months ago. You guys do stuff like play race card when the #1 QB I wanted was BRIAN BROHM. My dissapointment with the Ryan pick has nothing to do with Vick and EVERYTHING to do that it was a ridiculous reach when A)We should be building in the trenches and B)Based on merit there is no justification for valuing Ryan that much higher than the rest of the QBs in the draft. On merit he should not have even gone above several QBs in this drat, let alone that much higher
  10. Substance over style would have begun in the trenches. Substance over style is not reaching for a WR like Harry Douglass Substance over style is not taking a LB that is overrated because of his physique like Lofton. Substance over style is NOT reaching for Matt Ryan when there is much better value at QB in the 2nd round.
  11. Sorry Chris Carter but your reverse racism does little to inhibit the fact that the Falcons reached for Matt Ryan. Funny how this is played when Brian Brohm the WHITE QB is the guy we should have taken in the 2nd round. You can use all the red herrings in the book, but it doesn't change the fact that Ryan has the most average production and physical tools for someone taken in the 1st round in the last 10 years (if not ever)
  12. I fail to see how that obligates us to reach for a QB in the top 3 picks when we could have had much better value in the 2nd.
  13. He wasn't even in the top 4 in the conference in terms of efficiency. Cullen Harper was by far the best QB in that conference last year. Matt Ryan being the media darling does little to inhibit that fact
  14. Now this is more on topic response. Unfortunately, doesn't hold merit. What WRs from that Oregon team are studs in the NFL right now? The All Cupcake Conference is all of a sudden the top notch defensive conference? Speaking of that conference, Matt Ryan didn't even stand out in his own conference.
  15. And you are just blindly hoping that he will pan out as both a homer and anti-Vick I don't think Brohm, Henne, etc are Michael Vick's alter ego either.
  16. Matt Ryan has unprecedented hype for a guy without great physical tools or production. Even guys who were colossal busts at least had one of these traits. Ryan has NEITHER. He didn't have the physical tools and production to separate himself from players in his own conference, let alone the entire nation. Joey Harrington is a guy who AT LEAST had the production. Harrington was a much better decision maker in college. Ryan has a gunslinger mentality (fancy way of saying he's a poor decision maker) combined with an average arm. That is NOT a good combination at the pro level which will result in the type of games we have often seen in Ryan's career with just as many picks/more picks than TDs. More than likely in the NFL he will be one of those guys like Harrington with more picks than TDs in his career. And again the scary thing is Harrington is a better decision maker. The guy who failed to ever had a 2/1 TD/INT ratio in college may have a 2/1 INT/TD ratio in the NFL But lucky for him and his people who hyped him up and those who have jumped on his bandwagon (hoping against all hope he isn't a bust) they have 2-3 years of time before ish hits the fan.
  17. How did that work out last year with Joey "articulate" Harrington?
  18. Brohm had 2nd strongest arm at combine and this year at UL, his best year, they had more of a vertical offense than they've ever shown before. Even if you don't take Brohm there are still other QBs with much better value in the 2nd. You say Ryan is the real deal but you have no quantifiable reason to justify it. "He's a leader" "He's got intangibles" "He's smart" Yeah ignore the physical and mental tools that give him Brett Favre mentality with Harrington arm.
  19. LOL @ people saying it's hindsight. That's complete BS. Everyone who knew anything knew we should have taken a player in the trenches. It was the perfect combo of a need and BPA in Dorsey. With this draft so deep at QB we could have let one fall to us in the 2nd round. It just so happened that it would have been Brian Brohm a top 5 talent. Or even if we traded up for him if we were targeting him alone and didn't think he would last that far, it still would have been much better value coming out the first round with Dorsey and Brohm. Not to mention the terrible reach for Lofton and Harry Douglass. Overall this was an atrocious draft. And it's more than reasonable for us fans to vent. All you people saying we can't do anything about it and think that this is something easily correctable will have ish hit the fan over the next 3-5 years. A draft blunder like this isn't fixed over night.
  20. Jamie Dukes, Tony Siragusa. Shall I go on? Yeah because the law of probabiliy is in our favor with that one!
  21. And a disillusioned fan base that continually tries to convince themselves that people in charge of football operations deserve the BOD no matter how many times they screw it up. Jim Mora Jr over Lovie Smith. Bobby Petrino. Peerless Price, Ed Hartwell, Ashley Lelie. No to Randy Moss The list goes on.
  22. Let me tell you a story about UDFA being highly less probable of being starting caliber especially above average caliber than the top regarded players in the draft.
  23. Or have you just turned to blind optimism hoping against all hope that we haven't sealed our fate for the next 3-5 years with that terrible pick
  24. Not just what they said we would do, what we SHOULD have done. Showing that Smith had no say in this draft and TD has no clue and/or lot of meddling by Blank
  25. Trey Wingo was JOKING. They are through talking about the Falcons because they already suckered us into taking Matt Ryan.
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