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JAvonte Williams had like 300 yards receiving on top of his 1140 yards rushing (7+ yard avg.) That's without Lawrence, nor Bama/Clemson's OL. He's my dude. That's who I want us to draft.

I agree it needs a couple of pieces - L OG maybe OC. But those are just maintenance. You're attributing those numbers to the OL. I attribute them to Koetter's system that puts insane stress on the OL. He doesn't commit to the run and forces the QB to hold onto the ball. It's awful.

Yeah, he was never the same after his heart problems. He was the right hire, and we were right to move on from him.

I generally like it, but I'll be disappointed if we don't get one of Javonte Williams, Etienne, or Harris. A few of these guys were not on my radar - mostly because they are below the radar of the sites I frequent, but that's not a criticism. I LOVE McNeill. I suspect he'll rise quite a bit between now and April. I also think it makes a lot of sense to double down on passrushing DE. Ours are not worth mentioning. I think the glaring omission, given the news about Smith, is that I can't imagine him not going after the TE position, given his background. Ours are at best 'just ok.'

Everyone has a price, and the deal in the OP would meet and exceed my price for ANY WR. I'm ready to punt on next year in an effort to clear cap and rebuild with good talent across the board, instead of trying to keep expensive players who you then have to depend on to be healthy. The only position you HAVE to pay at some point is QB. Invest in a great front office, where there is no cap, and then Moneyball this s##t.

Don't blame our OL for Koetter's failings. We have some maintaining to do on the OL this year at LG and OC, but they as a group, are better than this year's results. Koetter's system just puts insane stress on the OL, and he'll never commit to the run. On topic- I'd be happy with Harris in the 2nd, but I would be perfectly happy with Williams if we miss Harris or Etienne. While talented, the exposure of those Clemson and Alabama guys pushes them more than a few spots up the draft boards because they are household names.

I don't usually go for a CB first (out of principal), but I've seen him a lot. This is grossly heavy on Bama players. Sorry about that.

Eventually that was his un-doing. He was never that good after his heart problems.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft/ There are quite a few of them, though. I play with first-pick.com quite a bit as well. There's also Fanspeak, thedraftnetwork.com, pff, nflmockdraftdatabase, and probably bunches more.

I know OL don't shift positions much in the NFL, since everything is so specialized. But moving Jake to RT, McGary to RG, Lindstrom to LG or OC, might be a way to get the most out of our OL. Personally, I feel like our OL is in better shape than it appears. Koetter hung them out to dry a lot this year with all the 7 step drops and no running game to speak of. In a better scheme, they'd look much better as a group.

Half of 7? That's awkward.

I'm more in the nihilist camp. It doesn't matter because nothing they can or will do matters.

You can always rely on Kiper to over rate a Notre Dame player.

I thought I read that he didn't do his mission, and was therefore a 'normal' age coming out of college.

He's more than welcome to join so many other transplants in Atlanta. But he can stay away from the Falcons, thank you very much.

He's worth like $250Million. He takes home a few million for a few minutes a year doing silly Nationwide spots with that country guy. No stress. No pressure in his life - at least from the outside looking in. Why would he do that?

The question, though, is was Gilbert a bust because of Gilbert or was Gilbert a bust because of the Browns? I'd always be interested in picking up Browns or Jets busts to see if those talented guys would succeed in a different franchise.

I'll go to bed happy at halftime, and wake up disappointed.

#DefundFalcons

Coaching lost us 2 games and kept us from being competitive in the SEA game. It's always more than 1 thing, but it's coaching that's keeping us from respectability.

This is an aside to the thread, but something I've thought about before. The NFL owners are basically the pinnacle of their respective industries: retail entrepreneurs, food stuffs, technology; all kinds of companies that don't compete against each other, but that have dominated their respective spaces. NFL is where those cross-industry giants come together to compete.

That's ridiculous. He's putting money into The Falcons. He's been great for the city of Atlanta. I mean some of his decisions haven't worked out like we hoped, but it's not like he was caught hanging with Epstein (who did not kill himself).

I mean... just f*****g punt! After the first 4th down conversion attempt, Quinn had lost the game. That was a major panic move.

Ok, but it's not an either/or situation between him and Bucannon. I really thought Deon would be -at worst- great depth/solid contributor. Of course, I didn't watch camp, and there was no preseason to go on, so I'll just shrug it off and assume it's for the best.

I don't see how they can really rely on Neal remaining healthy.