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Posted 12 August 2013 - 12:17 PM



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Posted 12 August 2013 - 12:23 PM

But, but, but...he would have been a Republican if he were alive today!  MLK was a supply side conservative y'all!

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 12:24 PM

I want my check too. ******* farmers!

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 12:25 PM

View PostAcworthFalcFan, on 12 August 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

But, but, but...he would have been a Republican if he were alive today!  MLK was a supply side conservative y'all!
I think he was referring to fourtyacres and a mule. Fair is fair he'd still be a conservative

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 12:31 PM

I think he also fell for the JFK charm, super fake racist. Lbj benefits from mlk loyalty I suppose. Lbj "we'll have those .... Voting Democrat for a hundred years" lbj. Eisenhower >

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 12:48 PM

View Postthe F-GAtor, on 12 August 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:

I think he was referring to fourtyacres and a mule. Fair is fair he'd still be a conservative

Um, no.  People like you would call him a "socialist".  You know nothing about his political beliefs.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 01:08 PM

View Postthe F-GAtor, on 12 August 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:

I think he also fell for the JFK charm, super fake racist. Lbj benefits from mlk loyalty I suppose. Lbj "we'll have those .... Voting Democrat for a hundred years" lbj. Eisenhower >

The Kennedys really didn't like MLK. JFK was worried that after supporting the civil rights initiative that MLK's numerous affairs and sex parties would come to light and by association damage and make his administration look foolish. Jackie and RFK despised the man. Robert said he had heard Hoover supplied surveillance tapes of King joking about his brother's assassination: the priest being drunk at the funeral, that it looked like they would drop the casket, etc. Jackie in particular was disgusted by him after JFK revealed another Hoover surveillance revelation that while in D.C. to meet with the president in which JFK was warning him to be careful about his indiscretions (hypocritical as ****) King was recorded organizing a sex party that same evening. In her taped interviews she was quoted as saying "That man's terrible" and referring to him as a very "tricky person".

I think MLK accomplished extraordinary things in his life, but I don't get why so many people today insist on practically bestowing sainthood on him as well. JFK quite probably saved the world in a literal sense during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and lived an incredible life, but everyone knows he was a letch that screwed practically every woman in his sight.....only because he "had" to of course, in order to relieve his headaches.........that does not diminish his accomplishments, nor does the truth diminish King's work, but there's nothing to be gained by perpetuating a myth of the man.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 01:13 PM

View Postsilentbob1272, on 12 August 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:

The Kennedys really didn't like MLK. JFK was worried that after supporting the civil rights initiative that MLK's numerous affairs and sex parties would come to light and by association damage and make his administration look foolish. Jackie and RFK despised the man. Robert said he had heard Hoover supplied surveillance tapes of King joking about his brother's assassination: the priest being drunk at the funeral, that it looked like they would drop the casket, etc. Jackie in particular was disgusted by him after JFK revealed another Hoover surveillance revelation that while in D.C. to meet with the president in which JFK was warning him to be careful about his indiscretions (hypocritical as ****) King was recorded organizing a sex party that same evening. In her taped interviews she was quoted as saying "That man's terrible" and referring to him as a very "tricky person".

I think MLK accomplished extraordinary things in his life, but I don't get why so many people today insist on practically bestowing sainthood on him as well. JFK quite probably saved the world in a literal sense during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and lived an incredible life, but everyone knows he was a letch that screwed practically every woman in his sight.....only because he "had" to of course, in order to relieve his headaches.........that does not diminish his accomplishments, nor does the truth diminish King's work, but there's nothing to be gained by perpetuating a myth of the man.

The Kennedys worried about another man and what his infidelity would do to his administration?  Now that's FUNNY!

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 01:16 PM

View Postsilentbob1272, on 12 August 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:

I think MLK accomplished extraordinary things in his life, but I don't get why so many people today insist on practically bestowing sainthood on him as well. JFK quite probably saved the world in a literal sense during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and lived an incredible life, but everyone knows he was a letch that screwed practically every woman in his sight.....only because he "had" to of course, in order to relieve his headaches.........that does not diminish his accomplishments, nor does the truth diminish King's work, but there's nothing to be gained by perpetuating a myth of the man.

I agree. I honor Dr. King for his sacrifice, but for me that's where it stops. I don't agree with his viewpoint, and were I alive during the same time period, I would've supported him from a distance.

It is laughable to me how MLK is made out to be a saint, equally laughable is how revisionist history makes it seem as if America was on his side.  0.o

We act as if he was embraced and loved by all and that he changed the hearts of men...BWAHAHAHA
Let's ignore he was assassinated!

Respect due to Dr. King...but I'm not falling for the okey doke.

Edited by King Syrup Golden 32 Oz, 12 August 2013 - 01:47 PM.


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Posted 12 August 2013 - 01:17 PM

View Postsilentbob1272, on 12 August 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:



The Kennedys really didn't like MLK. JFK was worried that after supporting the civil rights initiative that MLK's numerous affairs and sex parties would come to light and by association damage and make his administration look foolish. Jackie and RFK despised the man. Robert said he had heard Hoover supplied surveillance tapes of King joking about his brother's assassination: the priest being drunk at the funeral, that it looked like they would drop the casket, etc. Jackie in particular was disgusted by him after JFK revealed another Hoover surveillance revelation that while in D.C. to meet with the president in which JFK was warning him to be careful about his indiscretions (hypocritical as ****) King was recorded organizing a sex party that same evening. In her taped interviews she was quoted as saying "That man's terrible" and referring to him as a very "tricky person".

I think MLK accomplished extraordinary things in his life, but I don't get why so many people today insist on practically bestowing sainthood on him as well. JFK quite probably saved the world in a literal sense during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and lived an incredible life, but everyone knows he was a letch that screwed practically every woman in his sight.....only because he "had" to of course, in order to relieve his headaches.........that does not diminish his accomplishments, nor does the truth diminish King's work, but there's nothing to be gained by perpetuating a myth of the man.
well jfk and jackie daughter caroline said her mom admired mlk. She blamed those fbi tapes on Hoover and his poision activities.  She said he was terrible cause Hoover and Robert Kennedy said he made some disrespecful comments during jfk funeral. Her daughter said she was proud and honored to attend his funeral. And Hoover is the biggest crook to ever work for the government and tgey have a federal building named after him

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 01:18 PM

View Postyoungbloodz, on 12 August 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:

And Hoover is the biggest crook to ever work for the government and tgey have a federal building named after him

Ronald Reagan was snubbed!

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 01:18 PM

View PostKing Syrup Golden 32 Oz, on 12 August 2013 - 01:16 PM, said:



I agree. I honor Dr. King for his sacrifice, but for me that's where it stops. I don't agree with his viewpoint, and were I alive during the same time period, I would've supported him from a distance.

It is laughable to me how MLK is made out to be a saint, equally laughable is how revisionist history makes it seem as if America was on his side.  0.o

We act as if he was embraced and loved by all and that he changed to hearts of men...BWAHAHAHA
Let's ignore he was assassinated!

Respect due to Dr. King...but I'm not falling for the okey doke.
some people believed his own people set him up cause the civil rights movement had stalled

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 01:21 PM

View PostKing Syrup Golden 32 Oz, on 12 August 2013 - 01:16 PM, said:

I agree. I honor Dr. King for his sacrifice, but for me that's where it stops. I don't agree with his viewpoint, and were I alive during the same time period, I would've supported him from a distance.

It is laughable to me how MLK is made out to be a saint, equally laughable is how revisionist history makes it seem as if America was on his side.  0.o

We act as if he was embraced and loved by all and that he changed to hearts of men...BWAHAHAHA
Let's ignore he was assassinated!

Respect due to Dr. King...but I'm not falling for the okey doke.

Maybe b/c he went to my alma mater I know better.  He was a great man with flaws which makes him just like every other great man in history.  I remember an author had come to our school (Dyson) after writing a book exposing a lot of his secrets and I remember at a reception later on I asked him privately what was he hoping to gain by writing it.  He was candid but one of the things he said he hoped to accomplish was that he could show young people, particularly in the black community, that you don't have to be perfect, etc. to do great things or leave your mark on the world.

I had to respect that b/c I agree.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 01:24 PM

View Postyoungbloodz, on 12 August 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

some people believed his own people set him up cause the civil rights movement had stalled

Could be...I don't know, I have a documentary from years back supporting the theory you mentioned.

View Postslamee101, on 12 August 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

Maybe b/c he went to my alma mater I know better.  He was a great man with flaws which makes him just like everyone other great man in history.  I remember an author had come to our school (Dyson) after writing a book exposing a lot of his secrets and I remember at a reception later on I asked him privately what was he hoping to gain by writing it.  He was candid but one of the things he said he hoped to accomplish was that he could show young people, particularly in the black community, that you don't have to be perfect, etc. to do great things or leave your mark on the world.

I had to respect that b/c I agree.

I have to respect that also...My position on King has ZERO to do with whatever was going on in his personal life. I'm not in alignment with his methods. Again, I respect him...and anyone would have to admire his efforts, but I can't say I would have rolled with him.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 01:25 PM

View Postslamee101, on 12 August 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:



Maybe b/c he went to my alma mater I know better.  He was a great man with flaws which makes him just like everyone other great man in history.  I remember an author had come to our school (Dyson) after writing a book exposing a lot of his secrets and I remember at a reception later on I asked him privately what was he hoping to gain by writing it.  He was candid but one of the things he said he hoped to accomplish was that he could show young people, particularly in the black community, that you don't have to be perfect, etc. to do great things or leave your mark on the world.

I had to respect that b/c I agree.
I agree with what he said

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 01:41 PM

View Postyoungbloodz, on 12 August 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

some people believed his own people set him up cause the civil rights movement had stalled

Really? I hadn't heard that of Dr King. I've heard similar regarding Malcolm X, the whole thing with Louis Farrakhan, but that is a first for me hearing such a rumor with King. The alligation that Jessie Jackson smeared Dr King;s blood on his clothes before talking to the press persists....even from Sharpton http://www.nydailyne...rticle-1.909812 but I never knew some allege insiders were involved with his killing. Who of his "own people" are alleged to have been involved? Just out of curiosity.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 01:43 PM

View Postslamee101, on 12 August 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

Maybe b/c he went to my alma mater I know better.  He was a great man with flaws which makes him just like everyone other great man in history.  I remember an author had come to our school (Dyson) after writing a book exposing a lot of his secrets and I remember at a reception later on I asked him privately what was he hoping to gain by writing it.  He was candid but one of the things he said he hoped to accomplish was that he could show young people, particularly in the black community, that you don't have to be perfect, etc. to do great things or leave your mark on the world.

I had to respect that b/c I agree.

I remember that book, and the pretty rabid furor from King apologists that accompanied it, but yea, I agree with the reasoning.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 01:47 PM

Let's not forget too that while not all Democrats were segregationist all segregationist were Democrat. So mlk basically signed a deal with the devil.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 01:53 PM

View Postyoungbloodz, on 12 August 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:

well jfk and jackie daughter caroline said her mom admired mlk. She blamed those fbi tapes on Hoover and his poision activities.  She said he was terrible cause Hoover and Robert Kennedy said he made some disrespecful comments during jfk funeral. Her daughter said she was proud and honored to attend his funeral. And Hoover is the biggest crook to ever work for the government and tgey have a federal building named after him

What Caroline claimed in the modern pc world where MLK is practically a demigod doesn't exactly compare with what her mother said from her own mouth.

Jacqueline Kennedy spoke of her disgust towards Martin Luther King after claims the civil rights leader tried to arrange a sex party while in Washington for a march. In explosive tapes to be revealed later this month, the former first lady also tells how she could barely look at images of the iconic leader after he apparently also made derogatory remarks at JFK’s funeral. Jackie Kennedy’s relationship with Dr King Jr became strained as a result of wire taps arranged by FBI director J. Edgar Hoover. The taps allegedly caught Martin Luther King trying to arrange a sex party in Washington, although this has been dismissed by some material concocted by Hoover to damage Dr King Jr. Nonetheless, Jacqueline Kennedy branded Martin Luther King ‘tricky’ and a ‘phoney’ after hearing of the FBI tapes. In one of the interviews to be broadcast on September 13, she said: ‘I just can’t see a picture of Martin Luther King without thinking, you know, that man’s terrible.’ She said King had mocked her husband’s funeral and Cardinal Richard Cushing, who celebrated Mass at the ‘He made fun of Cardinal Cushing and said that he was drunk at it,’ she said. ‘And things about they almost dropped the coffin.’

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 01:57 PM

View Postthe F-GAtor, on 12 August 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

Let's not forget too that while not all Democrats were segregationist all segregationist were Democrat. So mlk basically signed a deal with the devil.

Not true.  I think most of them were but not all.