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#1 falconsfaninfresno

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:23 PM

I certainly think so but after having a discussion with 49er and Raider Fans (friends) they seem to think not. Of course they think that and screw them but do any Falcons fan think he is not worthy of the Hall of Fame?  Just curious what you guys think....

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:25 PM

I think he definitely is. And once his career is finished (1-3 more years I would think) I believe he will solidify himself as a worthy HOF candidate even more.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:29 PM

Here are the DE currently in the HOF.  Will be nice to see John on this list and going in as A Falcon...hopefully with a SB Ring!!

Doug Atkins (DE) 1953-1969
Elvin Bethea (DE) 1968-1983
Junious (Buck) Buchanan (DT) 1963-1975
Willie Davis (DE) 1958-1969
Fred Dean (DE) 1975-1985
Richard Dent 1983-1997
Chris Doleman (DE, LB) 1985-1999
Art Donovan (DT) 1950-1961
Carl Eller (DE) 1964-1979
Len Ford (DE) 1948-1958
Joe Greene (DT) 1969-1981
Dan Hampton (DT-DE) 1979-1990
David (Deacon) Jones (DE) 1961-1974
Henry Jordan (DT) 1957-1969
Cortez Kennedy (DT) 1990-2000
Bob Lilly (DT) 1961-1974
Howie Long (DE) 1981-1993
Gino Marchetti (DE) 1952-1964, 1966
Leo Nomellini (DT) 1950-1963
Merlin Olsen (DT) 1962-1976
Alan Page (DT) 1967-1981
John Randle 1990-2003
Andy Robustelli (DE) 1951-1964
Lee Roy Selmon (DE) 1976-1984
Bruce Smith 1985-2003
Ernie Stautner (DT) 1950-1963
Arnie Weinmeister (DT) 1948-1953
Randy White (DT) 1975-1988
Reggie White (DT-DE) 1985-1998, 2000
Bill Willis (MG) 1946-1953
Jack Youngblood (DE) 1971-1984

Edited by falconsfaninfresno, 23 June 2012 - 05:41 PM.


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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:32 PM

I guess Reggie White is in as a DT?

As for Abe... It will be hard for him to get in I think. Great player but he better put up some d*mn good numbers from here on out.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:39 PM

Keep in mind many think Claude Humphrey should be in HOF.  They didn't track sacks back then but he is credited with 122 in his career.  Sacks can't be the only factor but the guy was a beast and IS NOT IN THE HALL.  Gotta make you wonder...

Edited by falconsfaninfresno, 23 June 2012 - 05:42 PM.


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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:41 PM

View PostButudontseeme, on 23 June 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

I guess Reggie White is in as a DT?

As for Abe... It will be hard for him to get in I think. Great player but he better put up some d*mn good numbers from here on out.

Actually he is listed as both, I'll change the list.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:49 PM

He needs a superbowl.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:53 PM

View Postkirbyr, on 23 June 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

He needs a superbowl.
Yup. 2 would ice it.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:55 PM

I don't see Abe making and I personally think he is just on the cusp of being worthy to make it.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 06:05 PM

If we win a Superbowl he has a chance. No Superbowl no chance.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 06:13 PM

Statistically, absolutely. He's one of the best pass rushers in history, had he stayed healthy in the earlier part of his career like he has the last few years, I think there would be no doubt. I think now he needs a ring to be a lock.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 06:14 PM

nah

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 06:19 PM

View PostAftermath, on 23 June 2012 - 06:14 PM, said:

nah
Thanks for elaborating! Your post has been most useful.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 06:20 PM

View PostDem Birds, on 23 June 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

Thanks for elaborating! You're post has been most useful.
glad to help!

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 06:40 PM

If julius peppers goes then Abe should go.

They are statistically equal with Abe having more sacks in less years. The only edge is peppers has more interceptions. Some would argue peppers is a better overall player but my argument would be peppers has always been part of an elite front 4.

Peppers no ring
Abe no ring

Most would say peppers is a lock, i think Abe should defiantly be considered.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 07:06 PM

View Postmetatron360, on 23 June 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

If julius peppers goes then Abe should go.

They are statistically equal with Abe having more sacks in less years. The only edge is peppers has more interceptions. Some would argue peppers is a better overall player but my argument would be peppers has always been part of an elite front 4.

Peppers no ring
Abe no ring

Most would say peppers is a lock, i think Abe should defiantly be considered.

How does Abraham have more sacks in less years? Abraham rookie year 2000, Peppers rookie year 2002?

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 07:16 PM

View Postmetatron360, on 23 June 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

If julius peppers goes then Abe should go.

They are statistically equal with Abe having more sacks in less years. The only edge is peppers has more interceptions. Some would argue peppers is a better overall player but my argument would be peppers has always been part of an elite front 4.

Peppers no ring
Abe no ring

Most would say peppers is a lock, i think Abe should defiantly be considered.
Peppers IS an all around better DE. Dude is the most complete DE to play the game for the past decade. He will definitely be a lock by the time his career is over with. He still has 5+ years left i would think.

Edited by Clark Kent, 23 June 2012 - 07:19 PM.


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Posted 23 June 2012 - 07:36 PM

View Postkirbyr, on 23 June 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

He needs a superbowl.
^^^ Just what I was thinking. Otherwise, no.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 08:05 PM

Abe has 6 more games than peppers excuse me . Peppers is a great all around DE. Everyone one on the line in his early years with Carolina where all studs. The best front 4 of the time.

Ja55-
Games-159
Tackles-473
Sacks-112
FF-38

Peppers
Games-154
Sacks- 100
Tackles- 473
FF-36

Abe leads or ties every category in 6 more games.
Why is peppers regarded so high?

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 08:09 PM

View Postfalconsfaninfresno, on 23 June 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

Keep in mind many think Claude Humphrey should be in HOF.  They didn't track sacks back then but he is credited with 122 in his career.  Sacks can't be the only factor but the guy was a beast and IS NOT IN THE HALL.  Gotta make you wonder...
I think that Abraham has had games where he has completely dominated the opposing offense and he has done this multiple times.  If not mistaken he currently is the active leader in sacks with J. Taylor from Miami retiring.

I think a couple more 10 sack seasons, and he should get in, prob not on 1st or 2nd ballad and depends on some playoff success for him.