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#1 theProf

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 10:13 AM

Transition to New Offense Going Smoothly

By:Daniel Cox | June 8th, 2012

It’s two weeks into OTAs, and the Falcons are beginning to visualize what their offense is going to look like in 2012. Some aspects of the offensive approach have definitely changed, with new offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter calling the shots. AF.com’s Daniel Cox examines a few major characteristics beginning to emerge at OTAs in Flowery Branch.

NFL teams rarely come right out and say what they’re going to do.

Today’s NFL is a league full of secrets and mystery, all in the name of gaining any competitive edge that can be found. This offseason the Falcons introduced a new offensive coordinator and the safe assumption is that things will change.

Just how much is what the mystery is and what everyone wants to know.

So far, we’ve learned the screen game will be a factor—a potentially big one—in 2012. Head coach Mike Smith has said running back Michael Turner’s carries may be lower than in recent years and obviously Julio Jones’ second year in the league is highly anticipated.

Beyond all that, what else can be expected this season?

New offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter has a history of experience with the vertical pass, a weapon that suits what Atlanta has at its disposal on offense. Turner said he doesn’t know what having his carries monitored will mean, but he still views his job as unchanged. However, he offered a hint about the passing game.

“I mean playing running back is playing running back,” he said. “I get the tough yards, get some explosive plays. There might be a little more passing than normal than what Falcons fans are used to. You’ve just got to be ready when your name is called.”

The early reports from the players are that the installment of the new offense is going well. Everyone is spending the OTAs getting to know each other and the terminology of the new offense, but anyone expecting huge differences in Atlanta’s offense over the last four years and this upcoming year’s version may be in for a rude awakening.

Smith said after Wednesday’s OTA practice that what he’s excited most about this year’s offense is the competition he and the coaching staff have helped create with new additions, especially on the offensive line. Otherwise, many parts of the offense will remain as they have with better execution.

“I think I like the way our guys are working,” Smith said. “We’ve obviously changed some things from last year. Probably more is being the same than is being changed. I like some of the subtle changes that we’ve seen. I like the competition that we’ve created on the offensive line. It’s going to be a very competitive rest of the offseason and training camp. Competition is a very good thing.”

In an effort to make the transition to Koetter’s offense as seamless as possible, the coaching staff has worked hard to ensure the terminology is the same or similar as what they’ve used in the past. The theory is that this will allow everyone to learn quickly what they’re already familiar with as well as what is changing. So far the process has worked out well.

“They’ve adjusted their schemes and terminology to what we were doing and fitting in,” center Todd McClure said. “It’s been an easy adjustment for us.”

As the OTAs move into training camp, everyone will start to see just what kind of adjustments the Falcons have made.

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 10:32 AM

I hope trying to keep some things the same doesn't water down Koetter's and Nolan's impact. But I like that our coaches know how to adjust, something the last ones didn't.

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 11:06 AM

It's only the offseason and the new coaches have already made more adjustments than the last ones.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 05:07 PM

Worried about growing pains.  I'm hungry for post season success and a great year. As always and I'm sure everyone else is. I really am just hoping the growing pains will not hamper us and keep us away from that this year. Maybe some scheme and terminology with help alleviate alot of that. Go falcons.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 05:27 PM

I feel like the greatest change in our offense can come it Koetter shows more flexibility and runs a wider variety of plays from sets and personnel groups that Mularkey may have implemented.

If I had a dollar for every time Mularkey had Ryan throw from a 22 personnel group (2 backs, 2 TEs) I'd still have no dollar.

If a fan like myself can be sitting on my couch or at the Dome and call the play 70-80% of the time based on who Mularkey is sending in how hard is it for an NFL DC?

Koetter, just give us less predictability and halftime adjustments....you'll be on the right track then coach.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 05:28 PM

I am so pumped! Much more so than any other year in this era.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 06:10 PM

View PostGritz, on 10 June 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

I feel like the greatest change in our offense can come it Koetter shows more flexibility and runs a wider variety of plays from sets and personnel groups that Mularkey may have implemented.

If I had a dollar for every time Mularkey had Ryan throw from a 22 personnel group (2 backs, 2 TEs) I'd still have no dollar.

If a fan like myself can be sitting on my couch or at the Dome and call the play 70-80% of the time based on who Mularkey is sending in how hard is it for an NFL DC?

Koetter, just give us less predictability and halftime adjustments....you'll be on the right track then coach.

Lol I agree like I said before my wife doesn't know anything about football, but when the falcons offense was on she knew the plays.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 07:07 PM

View PostxSICKxWITHxITx, on 10 June 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:



Lol I agree like I said before my wife doesn't know anything about football, but when the falcons offense was on she knew the plays.

That is sad...if we are less predictable, we can be much more succesful. I imagine with teams studying hours of tape, they know every option anyway. We need every legal advantage we can get in this division.

Edited by razrtalon, 10 June 2012 - 07:08 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2012 - 10:00 PM

View Postrazrtalon, on 10 June 2012 - 07:07 PM, said:



That is sad...if we are less predictable, we can be much more succesful. I imagine with teams studying hours of tape, they know every option anyway. We need every legal advantage we can get in this division.

Yeah the greats watch tons of tape and know what to look for in a game. But if u have a good OC constantly calling different plays different formations your going to confuse the opposing team more. Some OCs even come up with plays they've never done before so the other team has no idea what your doing. MM same plays and formations over and over and just said you know what's coming stop it. If it was a good to great team they did. With new schemes plays like screens etc even the oline will look better. Good OCs design plays for mismatches and getting your key players in position to make big plays. I can't wait.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 10:31 PM

View PostxSICKxWITHxITx, on 10 June 2012 - 10:00 PM, said:



Yeah the greats watch tons of tape and know what to look for in a game. But if u have a good OC constantly calling different plays different formations your going to confuse the opposing team more. Some OCs even come up with plays they've never done before so the other team has no idea what your doing. MM same plays and formations over and over and just said you know what's coming stop it. If it was a good to great team they did. With new schemes plays like screens etc even the oline will look better. Good OCs design plays for mismatches and getting your key players in position to make big plays. I can't wait.

Apparent in the gb loss. In the first half we were running misdirection plays and they were on their heels. We looked good and in the second half came out predictable. They took advantage and never let up. My concern now is koetter made it clear he wants to install more screen plays which alleviates pass rush and keeps the defense respectful but Turner is not a great catcher out  of the backfield. so when quiz is in......just seems predictable to me. Maybe Turner will finally get less workload.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:33 PM

i want to see some sets with turner, snelling and quiz all in. snelling as full back, turner halfback, quiz just out there somewhere, moving, coming across like an end around or reverse.....some different sets with all three guys in. then the second half, use that set to hit JJ in the endzone.....

there are just SOOO many possibilities, with the personell we have, and a OC who's not afraid

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 06:19 AM

View PostGritz, on 10 June 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

I feel like the greatest change in our offense can come it Koetter shows more flexibility and runs a wider variety of plays from sets and personnel groups that Mularkey may have implemented.

If I had a dollar for every time Mularkey had Ryan throw from a 22 personnel group (2 backs, 2 TEs) I'd still have no dollar.

If a fan like myself can be sitting on my couch or at the Dome and call the play 70-80% of the time based on who Mularkey is sending in how hard is it for an NFL DC?

Koetter, just give us less predictability and halftime adjustments....you'll be on the right track then coach.
Completely agree. Mularkey was much too predictable in his play calling. Also he did not adjust his play calling very well during the game itself in order to take advantage of what the opposing defense was doing.  The primary reason that the no-huddle offense was more effective was due to Ryan making the actual play calls during the game and not Mularkey.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 08:40 AM

I think Ryan will get a good grasp and that's all we really need for the offense to transition

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 08:50 AM

Can anyone predict with any degree of accuracy, that  a change in OC will make any difference at all? Forrest for the trees, u have to have the talent in place (Particulary along the Oline) to make the Falcons an expolsive team on offense) and Dimitroff is just blowing smoke to cover up for his ineptitude in his critical area of dire need and some. Not Arthur, (As addressed in his end of the year presser), just don't get it.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 08:56 AM

We have huge possibilities for success just with different playcalls.  If we have an OC who is not timid and afraid to go right at a defense then we'll be awesome.   Aggressiveness is the key.  MM called plays like he was scared.  Hopefully Koetter does not do this.  If he halfway acts like he believesin his talent we will be scary this year.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:12 AM

View Postvabchbirdlover, on 11 June 2012 - 08:50 AM, said:

Can anyone predict with any degree of accuracy, that  a change in OC will make any difference at all? Forrest for the trees, u have to have the talent in place (Particulary along the Oline) to make the Falcons an expolsive team on offense) and Dimitroff is just blowing smoke to cover up for his ineptitude in his critical area of dire need and some. Not Arthur, (As addressed in his end of the year presser), just don't get it.
If our base offense changes from 2 WR to 3, that alone should make us more explosive.  If we never, ever line up in the 2-2 except in actual goal-line situations, that should make us more explosive.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:24 AM

View Postrazrtalon, on 10 June 2012 - 10:31 PM, said:

Apparent in the gb loss. In the first half we were running misdirection plays and they were on their heels. We looked good and in the second half came out predictable. They took advantage and never let up. My concern now is koetter made it clear he wants to install more screen plays which alleviates pass rush and keeps the defense respectful but Turner is not a great catcher out  of the backfield. so when quiz is in......just seems predictable to me. Maybe Turner will finally get less workload.

But that in itself creates the mismatch, they see quiz come in and think screen. then we go over the top to a WR or a cross going the opposite direction. Or run a double screen and go to the slot.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:38 AM

View Postvabchbirdlover, on 11 June 2012 - 08:50 AM, said:

Can anyone predict with any degree of accuracy, that  a change in OC will make any difference at all? Forrest for the trees, u have to have the talent in place (Particulary along the Oline) to make the Falcons an expolsive team on offense) and Dimitroff is just blowing smoke to cover up for his ineptitude in his critical area of dire need and some. Not Arthur, (As addressed in his end of the year presser), just don't get it.

We do have Oline talent is there questions about it sure. With a good OC and screen game u can cover it up. I don't know how Kotter will do, but his style and things I've read about him I like and know he will be Better than MM. I'm not going off of how Kotter did last year even though they lead the league in rushing. We have talent and Kotter will use it all not just 2 wideouts.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:45 AM

View Post215FalconsFanatic, on 11 June 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:



But that in itself creates the mismatch, they see quiz come in and think screen. then we go over the top to a WR or a cross going the opposite direction. Or run a double screen and go to the slot.

True, and quizzy can catch.  Generally we do not run screens to turner though.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:49 AM

I think the "wide-open" stuff that we as fans want to see will be incorporated later in the year as they get used to the scheme. In the beginning it  might look like Mularkey 2.0 for a little while.. Posted Image