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[g-dawg]

I am only including guys that could be available at Falcons #2-55 or in later rounds all the way through 7th round - I'm neither condoning (necessarily) nor against any said players in this original post - these are just interesting tidbits from various anonymous scouts or front office people that are unnamed:

• "I like (Troy's) James Brown on the inside, but he's a really good athlete.  He can stay on the outside.   He's just really raw technique-wise.  I wish he were more nasty finishing, but he holds his own."
  
• "The Iowa State kid(Kelechi Osemele) has the most talent of all (the tackles).  You have to see if you can control him.  I won't know until we sit down and put him through the ringer.  He's 6'7", 323lbs. and young."
  
• "I was not expecting to see a player when I put on the Illinois tape but #71(Jeff Allen) impressed me.  He has sweet feet, plays hard, is smart and productive as ****".
  
• "(Auburn's) Brandon Mosely could be a riser because there is no one else.  He's tight-ankled and plays tall, but the mushroom club is going to fall in love with his toughness.

[flrybranch]

Brown- Don't know enough about him

K.O. Think he is too tall for OG and not good enough against speed to play LT unless he slims down and gets quicker. Fantastic (Pro Bowl???) RT

Jeff Allen moving inside in the pros. Good player, but not as impressed as some seem to be.

Mosely- Mystifies me, I expect someone that looks as good as he can to dominate, but he doesn't.

[leftfield]

I have been keen on Mosley for a while however I think he is a 4th rnd pick and that means we miss him.  Osemele is almost unavoidable in terms of our glaring need (LT) and I wouldn't be surprised at all if he were snapped up and converted from G.

Allen and Brown both sound decent too are they 2nd rnders? I think Allen has many fans around the leagues also so we're not guaranteed that or Osemele either. So Brown or Mosley reached for in the 3rd?????????

Edited by Vinrouge, 13 April 2012 - 09:42 AM.

[freebird310]

Osemele makes perfect sense, if he cant make it as an OT, he will at the very least  be a pro bowl guard who is versatile enough to play all across the line in a pinch or injury reshuffle type situation .........

[g-dawg]

freebird310, on 13 April 2012 - 10:27 AM, said:

Osemele makes perfect sense, if he cant make it as an OT, he will at the very least  be a pro bowl guard who is versatile enough to play all across the line in a pinch or injury reshuffle type situation .........

I don't know if Osemele can play left tackle or not - he certainly has the size for it.  However, I agree w/ your analysis above - feel like he would be a productive player somewhere on the O-Line (RG, RT) if not Left Tackle.

I won't be upset if Falcons take Osemele in 2nd round.

[Master Exploder]

Osemele is going to be a great talent.

[razrtalon]

Master Exploder, on 13 April 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

Osemele is going to be a great talent.

Maybe a good reason Marcus McNeil isn't signed

[virginiafalcon]

It sounds like the team has been looking at Osemele pretty hard.  I think he'll probably the pick if he's still on the board, unless someone like Brandon Thompson slides down to us.  I wouldn't want to have to make the decision between those two...

[vafalconfan]

Kiper has us taking Allen:


6. Jeff Allen 6-4 307 Illinois (S. 5.20) R. 8.6
Background:

High School
– Allen is a Chicago native who started for four years at King HS, earning all-region accolades as a senior after
amassing 97 tackles and two sacks as a senior defensive lineman.

Freshman – Allen was a Freshman All-American as a true rookie in 2008
after starting nine times at right tackle. He and his line mates helped Illinois lead the Big Ten in passing offense, at 269 yards per game, and
finish second in total offense, at 439 yards per contest.

Sophomore – Allen moved down the line to left tackle and he started all 12 games at
the new position in 2009. Illinois had 331 yards rushing against Fresno State and 377 in the Michigan game in two of their more impressive
offensive outings of the season.

Junior – Allen started all 13 games at tackle in 2010 and he helped the Illini lead the conference in rushing and
break school records for scoring.

Senior – This past season, Allen extended his streak of consecutive starts to 47 with 13 more starts. Behind
him and his line mates, Illinois ran for 308 yards against Indiana and 364 vs. South Dakota State.

Analysis: Allen played most of his career at
the critical left tackle position and he did a very good job. He is very intelligent and he plays a solid, reliable brand of football. When you watch
him play, you rarely saw fundamental mistakes or penalties that would set the offense back. Allen is a hard-working leader, respected by both
his coaches and teammates. He got better every year he played in the Big Ten, which is the kind of trend you look for when you’re evaluating
NFL potential. Allen worked against some of the best pass rushers in the nation during his time at Illinois and he comes into the draft having
played his best football late in his career. He is definitely an unheralded standout coming from the Illinois program. Allen has done everything
right throughout the draft process, just about ensuring a spot on day two of the draft. In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he heard his name
called during the middle stages of round two. *Combine Note: Ran a 5.16, did 26 reps, and had a 27 ½” vertical jump.

[vafalconfan]

And here's Osemele; (sorry about the tiny print when I cut and paste)


Analysis:


Osemele is a very intelligent, hard
working bookend tackle. He plays with the proper leverage and he was dominant at the point in the Big 12, but projecting
him forward, quick outside pass rushers could give him fits, as they did down in Mobile during the Senior Bowl practices.
So, despite the fact that he was a left tackle at Iowa State, that’s not going to be his spot in the NFL. Osemele figures to
end up at right tackle because he does get an impressive push at the point and can effectively move guys off the line of
scrimmage in the run game. He could also end up moving inside to guard because he doesn’t have great feet or balance and that hampers him
in pass protection. As a right tackle or an offensive guard, though, Osemele is a guy you can go to war with. He proved to be one of the more
durable bookends at the collegiate level and comes into the NFL with a ton of game experience. *Combine Note: Ran a 5.19, did 32 reps, and
had a 26 ½” vertical jump.

[g-dawg]

blow that dayum print up, vafalcon - i just had my eyes checked and you are gonna make me go blind readin' that!

[g-dawg]

virginiafalcon, on 13 April 2012 - 02:33 PM, said:

It sounds like the team has been looking at Osemele pretty hard.  I think he'll probably the pick if he's still on the board, unless someone like Brandon Thompson slides down to us.  I wouldn't want to have to make the decision between those two...

that would be a good problem to have virginia

[Durrtay]

vafalconfan, on 13 April 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

And here's Osemele; (sorry about the tiny print when I cut and paste)


Analysis:


Osemele is a very intelligent, hard
working bookend tackle. He plays with the proper leverage and he was dominant at the point in the Big 12, but projecting
him forward, quick outside pass rushers could give him fits, as they did down in Mobile during the Senior Bowl practices.
So, despite the fact that he was a left tackle at Iowa State, that’s not going to be his spot in the NFL. Osemele figures to
end up at right tackle because he does get an impressive push at the point and can effectively move guys off the line of
scrimmage in the run game. He could also end up moving inside to guard because he doesn’t have great feet or balance and that hampers him
in pass protection. As a right tackle or an offensive guard, though, Osemele is a guy you can go to war with. He proved to be one of the more
durable bookends at the collegiate level and comes into the NFL with a ton of game experience. *Combine Note: Ran a 5.19, did 32 reps, and
had a 26 ½” vertical jump.

fixed

vafalconfan, on 13 April 2012 - 02:50 PM, said:

Kiper has us taking Allen:


6. Jeff Allen 6-4 307 Illinois (S. 5.20) R. 8.6
Background:

High School
– Allen is a Chicago native who started for four years at King HS, earning all-region accolades as a senior after
amassing 97 tackles and two sacks as a senior defensive lineman.

Freshman – Allen was a Freshman All-American as a true rookie in 2008
after starting nine times at right tackle. He and his line mates helped Illinois lead the Big Ten in passing offense, at 269 yards per game, and
finish second in total offense, at 439 yards per contest.

Sophomore – Allen moved down the line to left tackle and he started all 12 games at
the new position in 2009. Illinois had 331 yards rushing against Fresno State and 377 in the Michigan game in two of their more impressive
offensive outings of the season.

Junior – Allen started all 13 games at tackle in 2010 and he helped the Illini lead the conference in rushing and
break school records for scoring.

Senior – This past season, Allen extended his streak of consecutive starts to 47 with 13 more starts. Behind
him and his line mates, Illinois ran for 308 yards against Indiana and 364 vs. South Dakota State.

Analysis: Allen played most of his career at
the critical left tackle position and he did a very good job. He is very intelligent and he plays a solid, reliable brand of football. When you watch
him play, you rarely saw fundamental mistakes or penalties that would set the offense back. Allen is a hard-working leader, respected by both
his coaches and teammates. He got better every year he played in the Big Ten, which is the kind of trend you look for when you’re evaluating
NFL potential. Allen worked against some of the best pass rushers in the nation during his time at Illinois and he comes into the draft having
played his best football late in his career. He is definitely an unheralded standout coming from the Illinois program. Allen has done everything
right throughout the draft process, just about ensuring a spot on day two of the draft. In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he heard his name
called during the middle stages of round two. *Combine Note: Ran a 5.16, did 26 reps, and had a 27 ½” vertical jump.

[danish-pride]

^{I would love for us to draft Allen at 55. And then getting Brandon Brooks G from Miami, Ohio. in the 3rd or possibly trading up to the top of the 3rd to secure him. Then we have secured our O-Line for the next couple of years with to prospects that are quality football players that have an enormous potential.}

[g-dawg]

danish-pride, on 13 April 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

^{I would love for us to draft Allen at 55. And then getting Brandon Brooks G from Miami, Ohio. in the 3rd or possibly trading up to the top of the 3rd to secure him. Then we have secured our O-Line for the next couple of years with to prospects that are quality football players that have an enormous potential.}

i just love writing in small print don't you guys - this is totally awesome......Jacquizz Rodgers is even taller than this print.

[kiwifalcon]

For me its the NT from Clemson Thompson or Osemele if he projects to a RT you just kick Clabo back inside thats RG soughted and eat it for another year at LT I just gotta think that our first 2 picks have to be O and D-line help its the biggest hole on the team man I'll be really disappointed if we go somewhere else with picks.I see Trumaine Johnson on alot of radars but I gotta think safety can be soughted after cuts and later in the draft also.

[g-dawg]

kiwifalcon, on 13 April 2012 - 05:14 PM, said:

For me its the NT from Clemson Thompson or Osemele if he projects to a RT you just kick Clabo back inside thats RG soughted and eat it for another year at LT I just gotta think that our first 2 picks have to be O and D-line help its the biggest hole on the team man I'll be really disappointed if we go somewhere else with picks.I see Trumaine Johnson on alot of radars but I gotta think safety can be soughted after cuts and later in the draft also.

I would not mind taking someone like Osemele because - whether he plays RG, RT or LT,  I feel like we are getting somebody starter quality in 2nd round - and that is all you can hope for when 54 other teams get to pick before you.

[paulitik]

Didn't Bobbie Massie play some LT at Ole Miss? I know he played mostly RT, but I've been hearing some talk about him being a sleeper LT choice. I'm surprised I don't hear more about him.

That said, I haven't been too up on the draft this year.

[g-dawg]

paulitik, on 14 April 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

Didn't Bobbie Massie play some LT at Ole Miss? I know he played mostly RT, but I've been hearing some talk about him being a sleeper LT choice. I'm surprised I don't hear more about him.

That said, I haven't been too up on the draft this year.

yeah, Massie has all the tools to be a prototypical Left Tackle and most NFL teams are looking at him that way - he could be in the mix as well....

if you have dancing bear feet and ability to protect the blind side of Matt Ryan - you are worth a serious look if you are NFL prospect.