75 replies to this topic

[Resse]

Durrtay, on 12 April 2012 - 05:58 PM, said:

Dude, you kinda just burned yourself there...

Even Jordan Missed a dunk every now and then.

Edited by Resse, 12 April 2012 - 06:10 PM.

[Resse]

IHateLofton, on 12 April 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

Owned

What exactly did he own?

[Falcon Man]

Resse, on 12 April 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:

What exactly did he own?

Your stupid azz post of BS.

[Resse]

Falcon Man, on 12 April 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:

Your stupid azz post of BS.

No 56 tried to make a comparisom to a 27 year old Pro bowl LB who while injured has been with the team. Gone to all the meetings knows the playbook and will jump right in and make a impact.

To a FA LB who  will be 30 in Nov. coming off a major injury. Never been with the team doesn't know the playbook and has not been the same LB since 2008.


Atleast the last time Beason played a full season he was a pro bowler.

Better yet the last time Lofa was good in 08' Beason was All Pro.

Nobody got owned here dumb ***.

Edited by Resse, 12 April 2012 - 07:56 PM.

[The Real Sycola?]

Resse, on 12 April 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

No 56 tried to make a comparisom to a 27 year old Pro bowl LB who while injured has been with the team. Gone to all the meetings knows the playbook and will jump right in and make a impact.

To a FA LB who  will be 30 in Nov. coming off a major injury. Never been with the team doesn't know the playbook and has not been the same LB since 2008.


Atleast the last time Beason played a full season he was a pro bowler.

Better yet the last time Lofa was good in 08' Beason was All Pro.

Nobody got owned here dumb ***.

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[Resse]

S y c o l A, on 12 April 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

burgrugurd marbles b
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Sycoia a benchmark of the Georgia educational system.

[SuperSK]

Oooohhh yea I want in on this.  LOL
just not tonight. Way too late. Lol
I'm coming for u d56.!!!!!

[The Real Sycola?]

Resse, on 12 April 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

Sycoia a benchmark of the Georgia educational system.

says the fella who can't distinguish l's from i's

[Resse]

S y c o l A, on 12 April 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

says the fella who can't distinguish l's from i's

LIke these

[The Real Sycola?]

Resse, on 12 April 2012 - 11:40 PM, said:

LIke these

lol shes a crazy *****. even without the googly eyes

[onethousandweedwackers]

Did anyone else get turned on by that video??? Anyone????

[SuperSK]

falconsd56, on 12 April 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

Mock it if you want  but these type of things can have a HUGE impact. doesnt mean it will. Also i dont like bringing this up but in this context i will. Katrina was more of a distraction than this and the saints put up 10-6 with a team half as talented as the one now
Throw in the fact your head coach will be gone all year. we already addressed this would be a problem but your talking about 8 less wins than last year. YOUR NUTS BRO. you belong in TATF. No wonder youve disappeared from RC.
Throw in the fact your qb as of right now 2 weeks before the draft is not signed. (We all know he will be)
Throw in the fact  your presumed interim head coach is ALSO suspended. (Kromer will take over and its been said that the OCs will handle there side of things anyway.)
Throw in the fact a good chunk of your defense may also get suspended. (What Defense? You just posted how bad they were! 3 new LBs 1 DT and they wont suspend them all anyway!! its been said if more than 3-4 go, they will stagger them so its like losing a player for a couple of games to injury. Also more than half of the players from 09-10 arent even on the team)

Yeah feel free to mock it but when you finish 5-11  dont ***** when I mock you. (Well until then we'll mock you for your dumb *** post)

Edited by FREE Payton, 13 April 2012 - 09:36 AM.

[SuperSK]

Durrtay, on 12 April 2012 - 05:58 PM, said:

Dude, you kinda just burned yourself there...

awesome!!! lol

[SuperSK]

falconsd56, on 12 April 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

Lost nothing??

A start wr and starting corner has lost nothing?  Meach was one of our better run blockers. His presence there will be a loss but Henderson wasnt bad at it. i posted part of an article below to show you our Def Backs arent as bad as GW made them look. He blitzed 57% of the time. thats a ridiculous amount for dbs to be one on one. Your dbs dont play m2m nearly as much and they were just as bad.

All we heard about  nicks is how he was top 1 or 2 players at his position  and all of a sudden he leaves and its not that big of a loss???

Grubbs is a good player but if Nicks is really a good as claim he is that is a BIG loss.  its not as BIG because Grubbs isnt that big of a drop Also having one of the best QBs helps all of our oline.

They added Bunkley who averages 1 sack a year. (which is why it was obvious they brought him in for his run defense. then will be rotated out on obvious passing downs.)
They added Hawthorn who is a MLB who they expect to play outside.......... that is almost NEVER a good idea. (He played outside till he took over for Lofa, so its not like its something new for him. Versatility is one thing Loomis and Payton have always brought in)
They added Lofton with the same expectation/.............which take it form a falcon fan Lofton  outside  in space in pass coverage is a REALLY bad idea. Spags system is more of a pass rush with the intentions of stopping the run with the LBs. that plays into loftons wheel house. With Spags, Lofton will be a pro bowler in two years

So where have they improved the depth at wr? or Corner?  Is Grubbs an improvement at G? arrington will come up and play the 4th wr with Morgan battling him for that spot. the catching aspect of Meach wont be lost just the Run Blocking. At Corner, Porter hasnt played all that good since 09. Way to many injuries. would of loved to have him back but saints didnt. J. Patrick now gets his chance.
Will it be a big loss? NO will it be worse? who knows. they didnt have much further to go so losing anyone on that side of the ball wasnt a big loss!

The saints improve their run defense  no doubt but did they improve their pass defense?

So I ask again why is 5-11 so out of the question given EVERYTHING that the saints are going to have to deal with.

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Spagnuolo's biggest issue on the defensive line will be to get the best out of Jordan.

As a first-round pick, the talent is undoubtedly there, but his rookie season was not a good one. Jordan should benefit from moving back to a more orthodox defensive scheme opposed to Williams' blitz-happy package.

Improving Jordan and returning Will Smith to Pro Bowl level will go a long way to making this defense a championship-worthy group.

Despite Tracy Porter's potential departure, Spagnuolo has enough talent on the back end. In fact, he has more talent than he has had in quite a long time. The secondary really isn't the problem in New Orleans. If Spagnuolo can reignite the front seven, which is his speciality, then their defense should be in for a big year complementing arguably the best offense in the NFL.

Edited by FREE Payton, 13 April 2012 - 10:12 AM.

[bradael]

I'll wait until after the draft and into training camp before making my real predictions. But as of right now if I had to say....

Saints: 12-4 - For the record, I picked 13-3, 12-4, and 13-3, respectively, the last 3 seasons.
Atlanta: 9-7 - Talent drop off from the last few years, but the coordinators are better. NFC is loaded and they have a rough schedule though.
Carolina: 8-8 - Cam Newton will single-handedly win them games they should lose. He'll also lose them games they should win.
Tampa: 7-9 - Still too many young and immature players to make a serious run IMO, especially on another tough schedule.

falconsd56, on 12 April 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

Lost nothing??

A start wr and starting corner has lost nothing?

All we heard about  nicks is how he was top 1 or 2 players at his position  and all of a sudden he leaves and its not that big of a loss???

Grubbs is a good player but if Nicks is really a good as claim he is that is a BIG loss.

They added Bunkley who averages 1 sack a year.
They added Hawthorn who is a MLB who they expect to play outside.......... that is almost NEVER a good idea.
They added Lofton with the same expectation/.............which take it form a falcon fan Lofton  outside  in space in pass coverage is a REALLY bad idea.

So where have they improved the depth at wr? or Corner?  Is Grubbs an improvement at G?

The saints improve their run defense  no doubt but did they improve their pass defense?

So I ask again why is 5-11 so out of the question given EVERYTHING that the saints are going to have to deal with.

As we get closer to the season starting, if you still truly believe the Saints will finish 5-11 rather than it being wishful thinking, which is what it really is, then I'll bet you $1,000 that the Saints will win at least 5 home games this season.

Atlanta, Tampa, Carolina, Philly, Washington, San Diego, Kansas City, San Fransisco. Those are the home games. You seem so adamant that the Saints will lose twice as many games as they will win. They're far more talented than most of the teams they'll lineup against. The only way they go 5-11 is if they get a rash of injuries, including a season ender to Drew no later than the first week or two of the season.

And comparing this team to the 2008 or 2007 roster is ridiculous. Look at the rosters. The talent level isn't even close to the same. Also, the Saints were one of the youngest teams in the league back then. They're a veteran team now. They also have a real defensive coordinator. Gary Gibbs was a position coach pretending to be a coordinator.

As for your other arguments. Tracy Porter only started a few games for the Saints last year, regardless of what it officially says on his stat-sheet. He was often listed as the "starter", but Patrick Robinson actually started the majority of games over him. Porter is a solid corner, but he didn't produce last year at all. He's also been injured too often in his career. There's a reason he only got a 1 year deal even though corners are not a dime a dozen in this league.

IMO, Robert Meachem is better than most people think, but calling him a starter on this team is a bit of a stretch considering the constant rotation they have. He was still behind Graham, Colston, Moore, Sproles, and Pierre Thomas as a receiving option. The Saints lost their #6 target, who was mainly just a vertical threat. Loss... sure, but replaceable based on the production he had.

Nicks is a big loss. But his replacement is a very respectable player. The Saints will still have arguably the best interior line in the league, especially considering that Drew Brees's pocket presence will make them look better than they probably are.

And did the Falcons improve their pass defense? They brought in a guy with two glass knees to replace a solid MLB. They also didn't bring in anyone to help their pass rush. At least the Saints drafted some players last year that have shown promise. I'm sure most Falcons fans didn't think much of Jimmy Graham before last season started. I certainly don't expect Martez Wilson, Cam Jordan, Greg Romeus, or Junior Galette to make that leap.... but some improvement should be expected. Sean Weatherspoon had a terrible rookie season and then made a leap to near elite status last year. Not all rookies produce right away, especially on veteran teams.

Hawthorne also played OLB most of his career with Seattle. He moved to MLB last year after Lofa tore up both knees. Yet you're trying to make it sound like he's an old-school slow thumper at MLB that is trying to make the move to outside.

Edited by bradael, 14 April 2012 - 12:40 PM.