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#41 hjerry

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 01:58 PM

View PostMatt_Ryan, on 01 March 2012 - 01:53 PM, said:

i tink dat if he play reel gud dis seeson, den we shood giv him alot of cash-flo. Butt den agin, if he play reel poo, den we dot giv him dat much cash-flo. Its reel simpl guyz, u jus over tinkin it lol. #seresouly
OK, seriously, no adult is this bad in real life. You must be doing this on purpose.

#42 atljbo

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 01:58 PM

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BIOGRAPHY: Two-year starter awarded All-America and all-Conference honors after his junior and senior campaigns. Recipient of the Buck Buchanan Award last year, given to the top defensive player in Division IAA. Senior totals included 70/18.5/16 after 78/14/11 as a junior.

POSITIVES: Disruptive small school pass rusher that projects to outside linebacker in the NFL. Plays with excellent pad level, gets leverage on opponents and quickly changes direction or immediately alters his angle of attack. Gets a good amount of momentum going up field, shows speed off the edge and fast pursuing from the backside. Plays with excellent balance, body control and rarely off his feet. Displays an array of moves working to get off blocks and chases all over the field to make positive plays. Instinctive and quickly locates the ball or diagnoses the action.

NEGATIVES: Can be a liability in run defense and exploited by large blockers. Stiff peddling in reverse and does not get depth dropping into coverage.

ANALYSIS: Bierman has been a pass rushing terror the past two seasons and offers possibilities as a rush linebacker in a 34 alignment. He must quickly accustom himself to the speed at the next level and learn to make plays in reverse yet could see action during his rookie season as a pass rush specialist.[/left]

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Analysis
Positives: Instinctive. ... Good initial quickness off the snap to gain an advantage on the offensive tackle, and shows the balance to dip his shoulder and generate speed around the edge. ... Uses his hands well to slap away the pass blocker's initial attempts to block him. ... High-effort player who pursues with passion. ... Flashes some explosiveness as a hitter, forcing five fumbles as a senior.

Negatives: Classic 'tweener prospect who some feel is a product of Montana's system. ... Good straight-line speed, but doesn't play up to this speed, especially when asked to move backward. ... Good use of hands to slap away the initial attempt of pass blockers, but lacks the strength to hold up once truly engaged. ... Instinctive, high-effort player who may be maxed out.
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Thats Biermann write up...

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Its a good low risk high reward thing with Biermann signing if we can get him for 4 years around 3 mil... He could be more effective in a more creative scheme

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 02:08 PM

View Postmarkdzul, on 01 March 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

I think Kroy is the perfect fit for Nolans system and I would love to see him sign a four year deal at a reasonable price.  4-12 maybe,  I think if you see us sign a BIG UGLY for nose tackle it will set us up to run quite a few 3-4 plays....


The only reason you would need a big ugly is if you will play some 3-4 on run downs.... I read something that said Paul Soliai played just 40% of the snaps... So basically he didnt play on passing downs.... I just cant see us paying a guy 8+ mil to play 40% or less of the time (maybe even less since our main base D will be a 4-3 scheme) ...

Unless you get a freak of nature.... I dont see us getting a huge guy unless we get a guy very very cheap

#44 big_D

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 02:26 PM

I have faith in the beer-man. He will adjust to any scheme asked of him.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 02:36 PM

Under the right scheme he could be like a Clay Matthews.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 02:52 PM

View PostKGrillz, on 01 March 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

Under the right scheme he could be like a Clay Matthews.

You've got that right, he's got huge athletic upside.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 03:24 PM

View PostMatt_Ryan, on 01 March 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

i tink dat u sholdnt focis so much on da spelin asspect an jus talk bout da topik at hand. we aint tlkin bout speling, we tlking bout kory berman an his cash flow extensin. #stay on topik
Tell you what, I'll make you a deal. If you can respond to this post with a complete sentence, 5 words or more, in proper english, I will never bring up your spelling again. Deal?

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 03:41 PM

View Postatljbo, on 01 March 2012 - 02:08 PM, said:



The only reason you would need a big ugly is if you will play some 3-4 on run downs.... I read something that said Paul Soliai played just 40% of the snaps... So basically he didnt play on passing downs.... I just cant see us paying a guy 8+ mil to play 40% or less of the time (maybe even less since our main base D will be a 4-3 scheme) ...

Unless you get a freak of nature.... I dont see us getting a huge guy unless we get a guy very very cheap

agree about not spending $8 mil/season on a big ugly - but make no mistake - I think the Falcons will target a monster-sized D-Tackle in free agency or draft - Bierrman signing actually hints at it if you ask me.  I don't think Falcons are going to pay Kroy Bierrman $3-$4million/yr to be a rush-end.  He's going to be a hybrid 3-4 OLB-type.  If he is, that means Falcons need a "BIG UGLY" and there is not one on the team right now.

#49 freebird310

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 03:48 PM

Beerman gonna explode for 10 sacks in 2012, pay for Kim's mansion,  and become an all pro DE for us.... ..so let it be written, so let it be done ........

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:16 PM

View PostPsychic Gibbon, on 01 March 2012 - 01:56 PM, said:


To me it's more of a hint that they're shifting to a 3-4 base defense despite saying they'll stick with the 4-3 (smoke screen). Biermann has not be effective out of the 4-3 but he is athletic enough with a high motor to be very good as a 3-4 OLB. What they really need to do now is to retain Lofton so he and Weatherspoon can terrorize offenses in the middle and pick up a space eater like Soliai once free agency opens up. Suddenly the Falcons have one of the more solid front sevens in the league for one of the more dynamic defensive minds in Nolan.
Psychic I hope your right we need a space eater I agree.

I hope that transition to a 34 like you are suggesting does prove to be a difference and I don't see Lofton as a Falcon either to be honest I think ever since the talking to Crowder business 3 weeks ago I think that spelt the end of Loftons reign as a Falcon.

View PostMatt_Ryan, on 01 March 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

R u moudin me? U tink dat jus cuz i aint no vocab hi skool teecher dat im stuped or sumtin? Git reel bra, i came here 4 da same reeson u did, 2 talk bout da falecons and enjoi da cumpany bout footeball. #shutup
Bro I'm old School I read english I don't understand your TXTing language hence my comment.

Also guys were'nt the Falcons linked with the Jets NT Sione Pouha I'm sure I saw it somewhere we spoke to him.At the very least if they do bring in a NT I'd like someone like Aubrayo Franklin though a bit older I think he'd be a nice pick-up for us and could anchor both schemes but according to MS he thinks Peters can do the job but I'm very uneasy about that one though.

Edited by kiwifalcon, 01 March 2012 - 04:20 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:37 PM

4 years @ less than $3m per?

Good deal.

Would be very happy with this, as it shows we will actively seek out value.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:37 PM

View Postg-dawg, on 01 March 2012 - 03:41 PM, said:


agree about not spending $8 mil/season on a big ugly - but make no mistake - I think the Falcons will target a monster-sized D-Tackle in free agency or draft - Bierrman signing actually hints at it if you ask me.  I don't think Falcons are going to pay Kroy Bierrman $3-$4million/yr to be a rush-end.  He's going to be a hybrid 3-4 OLB-type.  If he is, that means Falcons need a "BIG UGLY" and there is not one on the team right now.


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The versatility of all of our players is very important. Corey Peters, of all of the guys was probably the biggest surprise. He was a third round pick out of the University of Kentucky who came in and has played very well for us. He can play both the nose tackle and the three-technique. With our new defensive coordinator I know that we are going to be very multiple in what we do and you want to have players that can line up in different positions. You want to have them across the board. Corey is a guy who can play a number of positions on the defensive front.


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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:39 PM

View Postfreebird310, on 01 March 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:




He can be a 9 sack guy, and he can be a guy that makes game changing plays ...I mean sheet, didnt we give Chauncey Davis the same type money ? .........
I don't think we want any 9 sack guys. We're gonna use the ten 4 sack guy model. Dude is a perfect fit for that model. lol

By the way, to the guy that dissed his wife, I must be old cause ole girl ain't ugly to me. I mean she aint a ten but she's far from woogly.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 04:48 PM

I like the signing and I think he would definitely benefit being in nolan's system.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:04 PM

I have said since day one that Nolan got hired that Biermann would be a perfect fit as pass rushing 3-4 OLB this shows Nolan agrees with that.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:17 PM

I like the resigning, I hope it's 4 years for 10 mil though. He's not proven enough to be worth much more than that.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:19 PM

View PostFalconFanSince1970, on 01 March 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

I don't think we want any 9 sack guys. We're gonna use the ten 4 sack guy model. Dude is a perfect fit for that model. lol

By the way, to the guy that dissed his wife, I must be old cause ole girl ain't ugly to me. I mean she aint a ten but she's far from woogly.
Definitely agree on Kim. She ain't the best looking thing but she ain't ugly and her body is ROCKIN'!

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:21 PM

View Postkiwifalcon, on 01 March 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

Psychic I hope your right we need a space eater I agree.

I hope that transition to a 34 like you are suggesting does prove to be a difference and I don't see Lofton as a Falcon either to be honest I think ever since the talking to Crowder business 3 weeks ago I think that spelt the end of Loftons reign as a Falcon.

If the 4-3 talk is just a smoke screen, as I think it is, then maybe they'll just skip over Soliai in free agency to focus on the O-line and acquiring depth and pick up someone like Alameda Ta'amu in the 2nd round. As for Crowder and Lofton, I'm edging towards them keeping Lofton and Crowder just being a bargaining chip in hopes that he'll lower his price to stay with the team. Crowder has extremely bad knee issues, is a pain to deal with personally, and is as lost in coverage as people on here are drumming up Lofton to be. If I'm right, I think the front seven will look like this:

RDE: Babineaux
NT: Ta'amu
LDE: Peters
ROLB: Sidbury/Biermann
RILB: Spoon
LILB: Lofton
LOLB: Edwards/Matthews

To me, that would be a top notch front seven with plenty of personnel flexibility just among the starters. Biermann can excel as a 3-4 OLB, Spoon will benefit greatly since he can be something of a rover, Lofton will definitely benefit since Nolan won't have him cover slot receivers and will be allowed to blitz much more, the D-line has big, disruptive players who can not only take on blockers for blitzes but also generate their own pressure, etc. etc.. Put that unit in Nolan's hands and it will be dominant.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:38 PM

View Postvel, on 01 March 2012 - 10:57 AM, said:

Start lowballing lower rung players like Biermann and word gets back to the other players and agents and negotiations only get worse.

Like you said though, the contract isn't crazy, unless it's for just 3 years. Why would he only want a 3 year contract though?
He wants a 3 year deal because if he goes off in Nolan's new system, he's gonna get PAID sooner.   I'm sure it was Kim's idea.Posted Image

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:40 PM

View PostPsychic Gibbon, on 01 March 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:


If the 4-3 talk is just a smoke screen, as I think it is, then maybe they'll just skip over Soliai in free agency to focus on the O-line and acquiring depth and pick up someone like Alameda Ta'amu in the 2nd round. As for Crowder and Lofton, I'm edging towards them keeping Lofton and Crowder just being a bargaining chip in hopes that he'll lower his price to stay with the team. Crowder has extremely bad knee issues, is a pain to deal with personally, and is as lost in coverage as people on here are drumming up Lofton to be. If I'm right, I think the front seven will look like this:

RDE: Babineaux
NT: Ta'amu
LDE: Peters
ROLB: Sidbury/Biermann
RILB: Spoon
LILB: Lofton
LOLB: Edwards/Matthews

To me, that would be a top notch front seven with plenty of personnel flexibility just among the starters. Biermann can excel as a 3-4 OLB, Spoon will benefit greatly since he can be something of a rover, Lofton will definitely benefit since Nolan won't have him cover slot receivers and will be allowed to blitz much more, the D-line has big, disruptive players who can not only take on blockers for blitzes but also generate their own pressure, etc. etc.. Put that unit in Nolan's hands and it will be dominant.
If we keep Grimes and the team can put Dunta at the Nickle or back into a press coverage we might be set on the D with this lineup.  Then the draft can be more of a focus on the Oline.

Edited by pdawg29, 01 March 2012 - 05:41 PM.