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[1989Fan]

Master Exploder, on 28 February 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, and Ryan Kalil are the only guys on that list that I think have solidified themselves as top 10 locks. Dontari Poe was already gaining mid-1st to late-1st stock and with his combine he's probably going to jump guys like Michael Brockers and Devon Still. It's called Planet Theory and NFL teams buy into it all the time. Especially at DT, where we've seen players shoot up into the top 15 due to their performances at the combine in the past 3 drafts (B.J. Raji, Tyson Alualu, and Marcell Dareus).

Dareus was a top 3 pick before he comine. Alualu was considered a major reach by everyone (most had him pegged as a round 2 guy even after combines), but JAX seemed to know best there, and the pick worked or them. Raji was indeed a first round pick, but he did move up the boards.

Anything can happen, but if he goes top 10 or anywhere close you will hear a big sign of 'WTF' from the crowd when his name is called for sure! I think he will be a round 2 guy honestly. Teams say all the time to not get too caught up in the combine numbers, and watch (and remember) the film. Fans dont seem to follow suit though.

If his combine lets him move up, and Devon Still fall to us @ rnd 2, I would be the happiest guy around if he becam a Falcon. He is a beast indeed. He may be a better DLman tan Hali was @ PSU even!

[Master Exploder]

1989Fan, on 28 February 2012 - 12:16 PM, said:

Dareus was a top 3 pick before he comine. Alualu was considered a major reach by everyone, but JAX seemed to know best there. Raji was indeed a first round pick, but he did move up the boards.

Anything can happen, but if he goes top 10 or anywhere close you will hear a big sign of 'WTF' from the crowd when his name is called for sure! I think he will be a round 2-3 guy honestly. Teams say all the time to not get too caught up in the combine numbers, and watch (and remember) the film. Fans dont seem to follow suit though.

Dareus was considered a possible top 10 pick before the combine last season. His performance is the sole reason he locked himself into top 3 consideration. Alualu was a surprise, but not entirely. He was a pure 2nd round guy and after the combine he started getting 1st-2nd round consideration. I'm going to say that Poe is right around where B.J. Raji was, but he's probably going to get more hype.

I assure you that if he does happen to fall out of the top 20, that he's not going to fall out of the 1st round. He's just simply too big and too athletic.

Edited by Master Exploder, 28 February 2012 - 12:22 PM.

[kiwifalcon]

1989Fan, on 28 February 2012 - 11:45 AM, said:

does anyone even have him ranked that high? I dont think I have seen anyone with him ranked as one of their top 5 DT prospects while watching the combine coverage.

Dont let his combine numbers alone lead you to believe he will be amazing. Where he ranked prior to workouts is where I would look at him getting drafted.

Devon Still out of PSU may just be the best DT IMO. I see many have him ranked 3 or 4 now, but during the season many said he was the best in the nation. That kid absolutely wreaked havoc all year on offenses. He should def. go round one, but if he dropped to round 2, I wouldnt be against making a move to get him.

Top 3 by Mayock before the combine they had Brockers and Still ahead of him.Mayock did say the tape he watched was against Misssi.state where he spent alot of time on the ground he said he was a bit of a project but with coaching his talent is once in a decade type stuff even Warren Sapp had him pretty high on his board also.

[vel]

1989Fan, on 28 February 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:

Poe wont even go in round 1. quote me on it!

I almost said this but I don't know anymore. Pre-combine, definitely. Now, with the media hopping all over him, his stock will rise a good bit. Steelers could snag him to replace Hampton down the line. Still wouldn't be surprised if he is a second rounder.

Master Exploder, on 28 February 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, and Matt Kalil are the only guys on that list that I think have solidified themselves as top 10 locks. Dontari Poe was already gaining mid-1st to late-1st stock and with his combine he's probably going to jump guys like Michael Brockers and Devon Still. It's called Planet Theory and NFL teams buy into it all the time. Especially at DT, where we've seen players shoot up into the top 15 due to their performances at the combine in the past 3 drafts (B.J. Raji, Tyson Alualu, and Marcell Dareus).

BJ Raji was already a first round lock before the combine with his stock on the rise and was dominant in college at BC. He was already the top DT anyway. Tyson Alualu was a serious reach, just like Tyson Jackson. Marcell Dareus' combine didn't move his stock, he was already going top 10. The Bills took him at 3 because he filled a need and was the best player at that position. He didn't "rise" to a top 3 pick like you're suggesting. Poe would have to go from a second rounder to a top 10 pick in that time frame, jumping Brockers and Still, proven players better than him. Not happening, regardless of what theory you think could justify it.

Edited by vel, 28 February 2012 - 01:37 PM.

[Slick Skillet]

There is a chance he slips to the second round.  I don't know about pick #55 though.  Just food for thought.  Sure would cure a lot of our ills on defense.

[Master Exploder]

vel, on 28 February 2012 - 01:32 PM, said:

I almost said this but I don't know anymore. Pre-combine, definitely. Now, with the media hopping all over him, his stock will rise a good bit. Steelers could snag him to replace Hampton down the line. Still wouldn't be surprised if he is a second rounder.

BJ Raji was already a first round lock before the combine with his stock on the rise and was dominant in college at BC. He was already the top DT anyway. Tyson Alualu was a serious reach, just like Tyson Jackson. Marcell Dareus' combine didn't move his stock, he was already going top 10. The Bills took him at 3 because he filled a need and was the best player at that position. He didn't "rise" to a top 3 pick like you're suggesting. Poe would have to go from a second rounder to a top 10 pick in that time frame, jumping Brockers and Still, proven players better than him. Not happening, regardless of what theory you think could justify it.

Well, we can argue about perceived stock all day and that's just not going to get us anywhere...

The thing about Dontari Poe is that just a few weeks ago Devon Still was the lone DT prospect and he still has major concerns. Then Michael Brockers started getting hyped up and he still has major concerns. Now steps in Poe, who has also been rising. He's top 3-5 in a lot of scouts books. He's got a lot of concerns, but he also has a lot of potential just like Still and and Brockers. However, nobody has stepped out in front as the leader of the pack yet.

Every year there are guys that shoot up in the draft. We're still quite a while away from the draft and we have a guy who has been rising on everybody's boards over the past month or so and he just blew the top off the combine. With no clear front-runner at the position, I don't see why it would be crazy to believe that he's got a fairly decent chance to be a top 10-15 pick.

[1989Fan]

wel, I do see Scott Wright has him as his #2 DT, behind only Brockers. He is also mocking him @ #11 to the Chiefs, behind only Still who he has ranked as the 3 or 4 DT. He has even made comments that he is not a household name yet but will be in coming months, guessing this was written before the combine.

Maybe he will be a round 1 guy after all, but I still cant see this combine hype moving him top 10. Not with so much top talent in the top of the draft.

on a side note, he also has CLE taking a WR with the #22 pick. That would be 2 picks used from the Jones trade to get WRs if it were to come true, lol.
They need to hit a homerun on that pick or they wont look so hot for making the trade. Phil Taylor, Greg Little and a FB arent looking as good as Julio Jones right now. Although Taylor does look like a fine DT.

[falconsd56]

His work out was impressive no question about that. I am not familiar with him as I did not see any of his games so I dunno.

But the "measurable's" are off the charts.

[Master Exploder]

1989Fan, on 28 February 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

wel, I do see Scott Wright has him as his #2 DT, behind only Brockers. He is also mocking him @ #11 to the Chiefs, behind only Still who he has ranked as the 3 or 4 DT. He has even made comments that he is not a household name yet but will be in coming months, guessing this was written before the combine.

Maybe he will be a round 1 guy after all, but I still cant see this combine hype moving him top 10. Not with so much top talent in the top of the draft.

on a side note, he also has CLE taking a WR with the #22 pick. That would be 2 picks used from the Jones trade to get WRs if it were to come true, lol.
They need to hit a homerun on that pick or they wont look so hot for making the trade. Phil Taylor, Greg Little and a FB arent looking as good as Julio Jones right now. Although Taylor does look like a fine DT.

The thing is the talent at the top of this year's draft is very suspect outside of Andrew Luck, Matt Kalil, and Robert Griffin III.

[1989Fan]

I agree Master Exploder, but I dont feel Poe is anymore of or as safe a prospect than any of the top 10-15 guys. It will all depend on if a particular team falls in love with him, similar to Alualu in JAX.

Honestly, I only see Luck and Kalil as 'cant miss' prospects in this draft. Other guys will be good no doubt, but those are the only 2 I see as safe picks at the top of the draft.

[Psychic Gibbon]

There is no way Poe is going to be available at #55. It wasn't going to happen before the combine and it definitely isn't going to happen now.

[The Falcon Jedi Knight]

Poe leads impressive DL group


Todd McShay
Scouts Inc.
The biggest story on Monday at the NFL combine was 6-foot-3½, 346-pound Memphis DT Dontari Poe and his epic workout performance.

After putting up 44 repetitions on the 225-pound bench press the previous day (16 above the average for defensive tackles over the last four combines), Poe went out and ran a ridiculous official time of 4.98 seconds in the 40-yard dash.

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AP Photo/Michael ConroyDontari Poe's 40 wasn't the fastest, but it may be the most impressive.

For perspective, the four-year average for defensive tackles is 5.15 seconds at an average weight of 305.3 pounds.

Poe was also above-average in the short shuttle (4.56 seconds) and vertical jump (29.4), and he showed his explosiveness with an unofficial 1.68-second 10-yard split during the 40. Those numbers are inviting comparisons to Baltimore Ravens DL Haloti Ngata, who came to the 2006 combine as a more polished player but had a similar workout.

Ngata: 6-4⅛, 338; 5.16 in the 40 (1.71 split); 4.65 short shuttle; 31.4 vertical; 37 reps Poe: 6-3½4, 346; 4.98 in the 40 (1.68 split); 4.56 short shuttle; 29.4 vertical; 44 reps

Ngata has turned into an All-Pro player and his versatility is one of the reasons the Ravens are so successful with their multiple and varied defensive fronts. Poe has similar potential with the ability to play the traditional tackle spot in a four-man front, nose tackle in a three-man line, or even the 5-technique (DE) in a three-man front.

Poe is skyrocketing up draft boards with his rare measurables, and he sits somewhere in the middle of the first round at this point. If all goes well during the pre-draft process, it wouldn't be a surprise to see him go as high as No. 11 to the Kansas City Chiefs, who need a versatile anchor in the middle of their defensive line.

[jbrinson]

this guy was mediocre in college in a mediocre conference. If he is drafted high he might be a bust. I would like the falcons to draft him but not do anything drastic to draft him

[madman88]

Knight of God, on 28 February 2012 - 11:57 AM, said:

I had been on this guy for at least two months now. He wowwed me even more TBH. Thing is, he won't be there when we pick, he looked out for himself yesterday and will be the buzz on draft day MTL. Even if we had a pick, we don't BPA. We cherry pick and he'd get picked around I'm sure.

combine wnt drive anyone up.. more so make ppl go back n check his game.. he only had 1 sack and afew TFLs last year.

[theKillaDrtyBrd]

Poe's stock is through the roof right now!  He is easily a mid first round pick... If he falls into the 2nd round TD has to bring this guy home!  I mean, give Indy next yrs 1st and 3rd as well as our 2nd this year. Imagine if we can bring in Super Mario and snag Poe...  Wow...  

Some wishful thinking, but... hey, its the offseason and I'm ready for some football!!!

Go ATL!!!

[Knight of God]

madman88, on 28 February 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

combine wnt drive anyone up.. more so make ppl go back n check his game.. he only had 1 sack and afew TFLs last year.

Not setting myself up on this one man. Been around too long. Patriots would pick him up in the first.

[ltstorm2]

DT's are scary to me. They seem to have a really high bust rate.  Suh is the last DT I can think of that remotely lived up to his hype and even he had a sophmore slump.

[Resse]

Good Chance he becomes a Panther. Him Brockers, Caliborne, Cox, or Kirkpatrick. Let's see how pro days go.

[The Dirty Bird]

I agree with the idea that we should use our first draft pick on a good DT.  But Poe will be long gone by the time the 2nd round begins.

Guys like Jared Crick and Jerel Worthy could very well be available, the latter be more like Dontari Poe and the former being a Top 10 consideration prospect a year ago who was hurt for most of last year.  Worthy is a risk though, as he has some bust potential due to his work ethic.

[Mattbob_Icepants]

4.9 forty. thats scary as sh*t. He'll be long gone before we pick.