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David Garrard Sends A Not-So-Subtle Message To Dirk Koetter

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#1 JOEinPHX

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:16 AM

http://espn.go.com/b...skill-positions

Koetter likes Garrard. Garrard likes Koetter. Stand by.

#2 falcon057

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:31 AM

View PostJOEinPHX, on 24 February 2012 - 12:16 AM, said:

http://espn.go.com/b...skill-positions

Koetter likes Garrard. Garrard likes Koetter. Stand by.


Yea Joe - he looks to be good fit. with the O-fense changing and Redman contract up - seems like the time to move on to a better b-up

#3 Lord Draakus

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:57 AM

Has a stronger Arm... Knows the new system.... And has a playoff win If hes durable he could take the job Just SayinPosted Image

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 01:00 AM

View PostLord Draakus, on 24 February 2012 - 12:57 AM, said:

Has a stronger Arm... Knows the new system.... And has a playoff win If hes durable he could take the job Just SayinPosted Image

No, he could never take the job. He's a good QB when healthy and with help, but he's not quite on the level of Matt Ryan.

#5 falcon057

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 01:12 AM

Wonder what he would cost?

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 02:26 AM

He didn't play on a consistantly good/talented team for all of his career. I think he would be a good pickup for a backup. The koetter connection is a bonus. There's a lot of free agent QB's this year that are at least half decent so we would be okay picking any one of the better ones. I would say it would be wise to draft a fresh young QB because this years draft class looks to be loaded at QB, however we have too little draft picks and too many holes to fill. Drafting a young QB to set up for the future if anything were to ever go wrong with Ryan would be nice but not necessary. Likewise it would be a smart move because we could hit gold and flip that QB for an early draft pick trade to another team if he showed talent at the NFL level. But like I said we dont really have the flexibility this year to do that. Kind of a shame.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 02:38 AM

I hope for the love of football none of you whom are claiming this guy could or should replace Matt Ryan are serious.

#8 BreakTheChains

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 02:42 AM

I think most of us are talking about him coming here to be a backup in case of injury....

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 02:52 AM

View Postfalcon057, on 24 February 2012 - 01:12 AM, said:

Wonder what he would cost?
this my question as well

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 02:58 AM

In a backup role he would make sense. I'm ok with this.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 03:46 AM

View PostDem Birds, on 24 February 2012 - 01:00 AM, said:

No, he could never take the job. He's a good QB when healthy and with help, but he's not quite on the level of Matt Ryan.
Ohhh yea? What level is Matt Ryan at exactly?

#12 Fibonacci

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 03:59 AM

View PostSleepy27, on 24 February 2012 - 03:46 AM, said:

Ohhh yea? What level is Matt Ryan at exactly?
12.5 million dollar contract. Lol
Almost 4 complete seasons, 95 td, 46 int., 14,000 yds,
While Garrard is over 5 seasons, 89 td, 54 int., 16,000 yds.
-----any questions?

#13 BreakTheChains

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 04:34 AM

View PostFibonacci, on 24 February 2012 - 03:59 AM, said:

12.5 million dollar contract. Lol
Almost 4 complete seasons, 95 td, 46 int., 14,000 yds,
While Garrard is over 5 seasons, 89 td, 54 int., 16,000 yds.
-----any questions?

Not saying Garrard is as good as Ryan but those are actually comparable numbers if you take into consideration the surrounding team Garrard had over those years. Matt has had alot of talent around him.
Ryan better step up, lol... Garrard is kinda underrated I guess if you were to go based off stats alone.
We should pick him up, honesty. If the price is right that is...

Edited by BreakTheChains, 24 February 2012 - 04:40 AM.


#14 Fibonacci

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 04:49 AM

View PostBreakTheChains, on 24 February 2012 - 04:34 AM, said:

Not saying Garrard is as good as Ryan but those are actually comparable numbers if you take into consideration the surrounding team Garrard had over those years. Matt has had alot of talent around him.
Ryan better step up, lol... Garrard is kinda underrated I guess if you were to go based off stats alone.
We should pick him up, honesty. If the price is right that is...
yes i do agree. If he had better wr then matt, he maybe on the same page or better. But matt o-line to me was worse in over all time. But regardless david is underrated, and for that he'll come cheap.
Anyone have an idea of how much?

Edited by Fibonacci, 24 February 2012 - 05:13 AM.


#15 k-train

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 04:51 AM

I'd rather we spent the money on Chad Henne.

Isn't Gerrard like 33 and coming off of back surgery? No thanks.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 05:12 AM

View Postk-train, on 24 February 2012 - 04:51 AM, said:

I'd rather we spent the money on Chad Henne.

Isn't Gerrard like 33 and coming off of back surgery? No thanks.

http://www.yardbarke...surgery/9935893
Did not know that. Thanks for having me look. I do not like injuried players. And back surgery is harsh. BUT we are looking for a back up, not a starter. Matt will not need to be replaced off the bat. When Matt got hurt it was late in the season. So count on Garrard having plenty of time to get to 100%.
He is 34. But again i say we need just a back up. Sign him two years, and get a 3rd string QB to be training in that time. Then move third string QB to back up for Matt. Makes sense to me.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 05:53 AM

View PostSleepy27, on 24 February 2012 - 03:46 AM, said:

Ohhh yea? What level is Matt Ryan at exactly?

Top 6 in the league

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 06:55 AM

View PostPapa's Home, on 24 February 2012 - 05:53 AM, said:

Top 6 in the league


Agree. Ryan is not our problem. Poor OL play is the biggest culprit. Another problem was inconsistant play by the WR corp overall with drops, injuries and ppor production after top 2 wrs.
Although I am in favor of signing Garrard; it is not becuase I expect him to replace Ryan but to replace redman. redman is not bad but Garrard is a veteran Qb that knows the system and still has some years left in him. to me this would be a great FA pick-up. I think he can help Ryan learn the system faster. Falcons are lucky he is available in my humble opinion.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 07:01 AM

I said in an earlier post that with our virtual "lovefest" for everything Jacksonville, i wouldn't be suprised by them picking up Garraud as a backup. I'm still fine with Redman as our backup, but i wouldn't have a problem with DG

#20 leftfield

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 07:03 AM

Garrad or Henne would be excellent back up material. Better than Redman who seems to have been a calm influence in a non threatening way.

Now we do need a better back up, look at Houston's malaise when injuries hit. I think Garrads affinity with Koetter helps make Koetters message translate quicker and offers Matty a bit more competition without puling a rug from underneath him.

As for third string, JPW has been very stagnant but new scheme and OC should allow him one further year at best to see if he compliments and adds value. I too would not be adverse to seeing us try and pick up a steal QB in the lower rounds if that is an option. Then we have 2 tiers of competition in that department with one being cut before the season commences. Explicitly I would love to see Russell Wilson picked up by the Falcons if he is available from the 5th rnd onwards.

Henne too offers great security but one feels he is more of a challenger still for starting QB and that will sway his decision to look elsewhere.





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