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[Big Rob 64]

Its so exciting to see all of the fast, strong, talented players available for the draft! Its especially exciting because I won't ever get to see any of them again except in enemy uniforms.

I wonder if we can get Julio Jones to play left tackle while running routes, and pull double duty as a CB and LDE simultaneously on defense?

That is essentially what we lost by acquiring Jones. Jones is an emerging star, has a ton of talent, seems to have a great work ethic, but his position is the least valuable on an offense--- except possibly FB, depending upon scheme.

http://www.coldhardf...to_Man_Law.html

We are soooo screwed--- and not in the good/happy way.

[leftfield]

No we are not, you talk rubbish!

Maddenesque bollox

[freebird310]

What a crock of sheet .........

[Big Rob 64]

freebird310, on 23 February 2012 - 01:40 PM, said:

What a crock of sheet .........

That idiotic trade that gutted our ability to remain competitive? I agree. It absolutely was.

[big_D]

Did you miss taking your meds this morning?

[phattywankenobi]

[abcranford2]

you are an idiot...

[abcranford2]

great attempt at disguising your post as something that might be worth while to read

[Master Exploder]

All we did was trade a bunch of players that would sit on the roster and be over-hyped by the fan base until they finally see the field and make a mistake and then the fan base calls for their head.

I'd rather skip the headache and grab an elite player than those guys.

[Big Rob 64]

Blind grubworm homers. If you don't see this is a team that is in disintegration-mode, then borrow Stevie Wonder's glasses.

If you can't see that the Julio Jones trade (reiterating: nothing against Jones as a player, but NO wr is worth that price) has denied us the ability to to improve significantly, especially at LT, via the draft, then you are a blind grubworm homer who knows nothing.

Read my sig. Applauding Nero as Rome burns is not being a fan.

[red falcon]

If only we could get players from other places besides the draft.......................

[capologist]

I love how people act like having 5 picks instead of 7 is like having nothing...

[abcranford2]

yea...a franchise that is at its greatest since entering the league is in disintegration mode...makes since...says a guy named big rob lol..what a moron

[freebird310]

Big Rob 64, on 23 February 2012 - 01:49 PM, said:

Blind grubworm homers. If you don't see this is a team that is in disintegration-mode, then borrow Stevie Wonder's glasses.

If you can't see that the Julio Jones trade (reiterating: nothing against Jones as a player, but NO wr is worth that price) has denied us the ability to to improve significantly, especially at LT, via the draft, then you are a blind grubworm homer who knows nothing.

Read my sig. Applauding Nero as Rome burns is not being a fan.

Wrong answer biatch ......the next Andre Johnson/Larry Fitzgerald is worth it ...........go back to sleep .......

[ol'_dirty2]

Wow! That took me down a different road than I first anticipated. LOL

[HEI5T]

Julio could play CB. Tall, stupidly fast, good hands

[Big Rob 64]

abcranford2, on 23 February 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

you are an idiot...

Prove any of this information wrong.

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ONE – Wide receivers, for all their eye-catching flash and dash, are little more than shiny ornaments on the hood of an NFL offense. Oh, sure, they're nice to have. But they don't necessarily make your offense any better – and they rarely if ever make your team any better.

TWO – You should add a flashy wide receiver only when all the other pieces of a great team are in place: a great driver (the quarterback), some sporty tires that provide plenty of traction (the offensive line and ground game), a powerful motor (the defense) and a great transmission (special teams) that allows you to change gears quickly and effectively.

THREE – Even the greatest receivers of all time can make a big impact only when all those pieces are in place, and even then the impact is largely overstated. Even the great Jerry Rice, for example, touched the ball just four to five times per game. So the impact of even the greatest at the position is minimal compared with the impact of a certain position that touches the ball on every offensive snap. And remember, Rice did not make the 49ers a great team. He was drafted by the 18-1 defending Super Bowl champ 49ers in 1985.

We proposed the shiny hood ornament theory after the preponderance of evidence overwhelmed us and as we watched in frustration each off-season when NFL teams, looking for an instant shot of firepower, stupidly wasted valuable resources chasing big-named wideouts in the draft and in free agency.

The New England Patriots went to the Super Bowl without a decent WR. We have 2, and can't win one single playoff game.

The Giants receiving corps consist of a #29 draft pick, an undrafted free agent, and a #95 pick.

The Saints top 2 wide receivers were a #252 pick and a #27 pick (he's their 4th receiver, behind a TE and a RB).

The Packers top wideouts are a #78, a geriatric #213 pick, a #52 pick, and a #64 pick.

These are undisputed facts. There are plenty of high-powered offenses that have WR's from late rounds. On the other hand, the unquestioned best WR in the game, Larry Fitzgerald, hasn't been able to do squat except amass personal stats because the team around him sucks.

[Herr Doktor]

capologist, on 23 February 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:

I love how people act like having 5 picks instead of 7 is like having nothing...

Most act like every pick is a Bona fide starter and sure thing pro bowler!!

[Big Rob 64]

freebird310, on 23 February 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

Wrong answer biatch ......the next Andre Johnson/Larry Fitzgerald is worth it ...........go back to sleep .......

How many playoff appearances did those two make without a strong team around them? And remember, Houston did just fine without their # 1 AND #2 QB's and without Johnson. They were 8-4 in games Johnson missed or played sparingly.

[pzummo]

Big Rob 64, on 23 February 2012 - 02:10 PM, said:

Prove any of this information wrong.




The New England Patriots went to the Super Bowl without a decent WR. We have 2, and can't win one single playoff game.

The Giants receiving corps consist of a #29 draft pick, an undrafted free agent, and a #95 pick.

The Saints top 2 wide receivers were a #252 pick and a #27 pick (he's their 4th receiver, behind a TE and a RB).

The Packers top wideouts are a #78, a geriatric #213 pick, a #52 pick, and a #64 pick.

These are undisputed facts. There are plenty of high-powered offenses that have WR's from late rounds. On the other hand, the unquestioned best WR in the game, Larry Fitzgerald, hasn't been able to do squat except amass personal stats because the team around him sucks.

The Patriots had a good/great WR the last 2 times they made a Superbowl. Wes Welker is a good WR. Randy Moss was a great WR.

A player's draft position does not change whether or not he "became" a great WR. Nicks, Manningham, and Cruz are all very good WR's. Colston was a draft day steal. Greg Jennings is a helluva WR. Jordy Nelson has become a helluva WR. Donald Driver has been a great WR.

Why not talk about the teams that are carried by their star WR? Take Calvin Johnson off of Detroit, they do not make the playoffs. Take Andre Johnson off of the Texans, and they take a HUGE step back. Take Steve Smith off of Carolina and Newton couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. Without Vincent Jackson, Rivers looked serviceable at best.