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[ryantlanta]

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John Abraham - DL - Falcons

After speaking to the Falcons, the player rep for free agent DE John Abraham believes his client is headed for the open market.
The Falcons are severing ties as Abraham goes on age 34. With no realistic in-house replacement, Atlanta will look to the draft and free agency for a new right defensive end. Pass rush was a problem for the Falcons in 2011, even with Abraham on the roster and Ray Edwards signed to play left defensive end. Mike Smith's defense tied for 22nd in sacks and ranked 20th against the pass.

I think with this being said we have to go after a Top Tier DE.
I say this because it is a make or break year for Smith and Company I think if we don't win a playoff game this year Mike Smith will be fired.
So i think we will get one of these guys depending on who actually hits the market.
In no particular order

• Robert Mathis
  
• Mario Williams
  
• Calais Campbell
  
• Cliff Avril

If we don't get one of these guys our defense will be in real trouble with no Abraham.
What do you all think?
Because I don't want to see this anymore lol
http://blogs.ajc.com...ootball.JP1.JPG

[Creative]

Obviously I'm hoping for Mario Williams.

I don't think any of them would completely fill the void.. but we better bring one in or I've lost all faith and respect for TD and crew.

[ryantlanta]

Creative, on 22 February 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

Obviously I'm hoping for Mario Williams.

I don't think any of them would completely fill the void.. but we better bring one in or I've lost all faith and respect for TD and crew.

I know me too if we don't bring one of these guys in our defense will plain out suck because we will have no pass rush what so ever maybe TD will pull a trade for Osi for a 2nd or 3rd rounder in next year's draft.

[kiwifalcon]

Well G-Dawg Master Exploder and I have been argueing this for about 16 pages on another thread on page 1 also.

We have to I think being how fiscally responsible TD has been with the Falcons $$$ over the last 4 years has lead us to this and with the fact we can't do anything realistic in the draft FA is the only place we go to get it done.

I sure as h*ll hope we pay #90 and say welcome to the ATL young fella.

[ryantlanta]

kiwifalcon, on 22 February 2012 - 09:01 PM, said:

Well G-Dawg Master Exploder and I have been argueing this for about 16 pages on another thread on page 1 also.

We have to I think being how fiscally responsible TD has been with the Falcons $$$ over the last 4 years has lead us to this and with the fact we can't do anything realistic in the draft FA is the only place we go to get it done.

I sure as h*ll hope we pay #90 and say welcome to the ATL young fella.

Yea with him maybe edwards could get more than 3.5 sacks lmao.

[Master Exploder]

If we do decide to cut ties with John Abraham and go after a top tier DE in FA, then I would imagine our targets are going to look like this:

1. Mario Williams
2. Cliff Avril
3. Robert Mathis
4. Andre Carter

I don't really see Calais Campbell as a legitimate option because Ray Edwards is not a blind side pass rusher and neither is Calais Campbell. Avril and Mathis have played their careers on the left side, but they have the capability of being effective from the blind side. I'd prefer to settle with Mathis if we were unable to bring in Williams, but Avril's age will probably trump Mathis's skill set. I don't trust Avril though. He didn't really turn it up until Kyle Vanden Bosch and Ndamukong Suh came into town, which is a big concern that I had with Edwards in the off season last year, who also benefited from having Jared Allen, Kevin Williams, and Pat Williams on the line. Andre Carter is not a very viable option in my mind. He's old, but he will be much cheaper than Abraham and he looks like he still has the ability to produce a solid pass rush.

With that said, Mario Williams has to be the guy you go for in this situation. He's one of the few effective 3 down right ends in the entire league. He is almost identical to Julius Peppers in his mid-20's. I just don't see how you pass up on him. Our defense needs elite talent and he's the only elite player in free agency this off season.

Edited by Master Exploder, 22 February 2012 - 09:21 PM.

[Psychic Gibbon]

I'm not surprised. He wants $12 million per year despite only really being worth $4-6 million per year. If we're going to spend that much then we might as well spend it on Mario Williams, but I'd be hesitant paying anything more than that.

[madman88]

I wouldnt get to excited aboht bringing in a top tier DE... Def since nolan has expressed of how he likes pressure applied with more blitzes instead just the front four.. i wont say theres not a need for one but more so no as bigg of a need if you can scheme a pass rush...

[PokerSteve]

Creative, on 22 February 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

Obviously I'm hoping for Mario Williams.

I don't think any of them would completely fill the void.. but we better bring one in or I've lost all faith and respect for TD and crew.

So you're saying you don't think Mario Williams could fill the void left by Abe??? That's the dumbest thing I've ever read on these boards, quite possibly the dumbest thing ever said on the internet.

[Resse]

Psychic Gibbon, on 22 February 2012 - 09:21 PM, said:

I'm not surprised. He wants $12 million per year despite only really being worth $4-6 million per year. If we're going to spend that much then we might as well spend it on Mario Williams, but I'd be hesitant paying anything more than that.

Abe and His agent is on Crack if they think he's getting 12 mil a year. More like 2.5 -3.5 a year.

[FalconJim]

Yeah, we'll get a top-tier DE.....IF, we draft Vinny Curry out of Marshall, that is. He's a monster, at 6' 3", 265 lbs. Quick, agile and NO history of injury. This would definitely take care of one of our needs on the D-line!!!

As for Abe.....he's been a good one, but all good things must come to an end. It's time to put some youth on our D-line, and Curry would be a perfect choice in the 2nd, if he falls that far.

Then just for good measure.....we draft UGA's C, Ben Jones in the 3rd, to replace McClure, who according to many is "NFL ready" since having a history of playing in a Pro-style" offense,

Then, we draft UGA, TE, Orson Charles to eventually replace Gonzo. Everything else can be taken care of in FA, and our other draft picks...

Edited by FalconJim, 23 February 2012 - 12:12 AM.

[Knight of God]

No matter who we get on the right, better get someone on the left too or its all for nothing.

[HEI5T]

Lets get Jamie Blatnick from OSU

Total steal

[Mr Pickle1]

Knight of God, on 23 February 2012 - 12:19 AM, said:

No matter who we get on the right, better get someone on the left too or its all for nothing.

Let's see how our players perform with an actual defensive coordinator, and not a mustachioed porn star parody.

[Knight of God]

Mr Pickle1, on 23 February 2012 - 12:23 AM, said:

Let's see how our players perform with an actual defensive coordinator, and not a mustachioed porn star parody.

Edwards will still suck man.

[slamee101]

Psychic Gibbon, on 22 February 2012 - 09:21 PM, said:

I'm not surprised. He wants $12 million per year despite only really being worth $4-6 million per year. If we're going to spend that much then we might as well spend it on Mario Williams, but I'd be hesitant paying anything more than that.

Where did he say that?

[Master Exploder]

Knight of God, on 23 February 2012 - 12:33 AM, said:

Edwards will still suck man.

He wasn't that awful.

[Knight of God]

Master Exploder, on 23 February 2012 - 01:38 AM, said:

He wasn't that awful.

Only because you got use to JA98

Edwards is pathetic

[Falconcheff]

The first of the "no sacred cows" finds the slaughterhouse. Everyone whooped and hollered when the FO made that claim; now that it's become a reality, panic sets in. As if our pass rush had something magical with 55 in the lineup; no wait, last I checked we sucked with and without him.

Realistically, Abe last year had 3.5 sacks vs Jax and 6 the other 15 games. I think we can find that production off the bench in Sid and Matthews, but if not, the money I would've paid Abe is going to a younger FA. So be it.

Thanks for being one helluva player for us, 55. Here's to hoping you suck for whatever team picks you up, so I don't have to read any whiny azz threads about what a mistake we made letting you go.

[Master Exploder]

Knight of God, on 23 February 2012 - 01:47 AM, said:

Only because you got use to JA98

Edwards is pathetic

What makes him so awful? 3.5 sacks?