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[Skareffect]

Since it was announced and releasing on Oct 30th.. it's rumored that the game will take place in the American Revolutions era.

[muskokas finest ©]

They're calling it AC3?  Brotherhood was AC3.  The games are very well done, but getting stale too.  Should've held the next version for new hardware platforms.

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muskokas finest, on 18 February 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

They're calling it AC3?  Brotherhood was AC3.  The games are very well done, but getting stale too.  Should've held the next version for new hardware platforms.

No.. Brotherhood is a sequel of AC2, same with Revelations.

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Skar, on 18 February 2012 - 11:06 PM, said:

No.. Brotherhood is a sequel of AC2, same with Revelations.

Sequel to AC2 = AC3.....semantics.  AC3 better be a working title cause this franchise needs a new direction.

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muskokas finest, on 19 February 2012 - 08:23 AM, said:

Sequel to AC2 = AC3.....semantics.  AC3 better be a working title cause this franchise needs a new direction.

The whole game is a sequel to AC1 but the reason why the next title is named AC3 is because BH and R were sequels from AC2. (Ezio era)

[B^rooklyn]

I Hope The Assassin In Ac3 Is Female. I Love The AC Franchise, It's The Only Non-Competitive

Game (Online Wise Vs. Other People) That I Play And Enjoy. Every Other Game I Play Is

Online, Mw2/3 U/MvsC3, DCUO. I Feel Like Offline Games Are Dying. But, I Agree That They

Are Making These AC Games Too Much, And That Can Hurt The AC Franchise.


AC1 I Liked Because It Was Something New, But It Quickly Got Toooooo Repetitive.

AC2 IMHO Is The Best AC Game Out Of All Of Them, You Get To See Ezio's Life Story From The Day His Born.

ACB Was Great, But Not As Good As AC2.

ACR Was Ok, Game Felt Rushed And It's Not That Long.

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muskokas finest, on 19 February 2012 - 08:23 AM, said:

Sequel to AC2 = AC3.....semantics.  AC3 better be a working title cause this franchise needs a new direction.

Not really semantics.  You can't put a title on a game that was never given that title.  Assassin's Creed 3 is the title of this game.  It was not the title of Assassin's Creed Brotherhood or Revelations.  As a side point, those were both games to flesh out the story of Ezio and build on the AC world.  Each numbered entry has introduced completely different characters, time periods and technology.

Just as AC2 took place well after the original, AC3 will pick up with another time period and completely new set of characters.

It will get the needed "change of direction" simply by moving forward in time.  They spent too much time on Ezio... though honestly that may be because he is a very important figure in the lineage of the Assassins.

[ransack]

I think the whole Assassins Creed franchise is really undervalued. When you think about it it's really the only game out there that lets you truly interact with the entire game environment. All other games make you follow predetermined paths that the developers want or force you to go in with little interaction with your surroundings except maybe ducking behind a wall or driving a vehicle. AC provides complete freedom (though I wish you could enter all buildings) to explore and interact with an entire living city on top of controlling the pace of game play. It's a blueprint that I wish more franchises would follow.

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ransack, on 20 February 2012 - 07:15 PM, said:

I think the whole Assassins Creed franchise is really undervalued. When you think about it it's really the only game out there that lets you truly interact with the entire game environment. All other games make you follow predetermined paths that the developers want or force you to go in with little interaction with your surroundings except maybe ducking behind a wall or driving a vehicle. AC provides complete freedom (though I wish you could enter all buildings) to explore and interact with an entire living city on top of controlling the pace of game play. It's a blueprint that I wish more franchises would follow.

I completely agree.  Grand Theft Auto pioneered the big scale sandbox and AC really pushed it forward imo.  I think it will be interesting when they finally catch up to Desmond and we have a fully modern AC world to explore.  Being outside the Animus creates challenges they have not had to answer as developers/designers... every section outside the Animus to this point has been totally linear.  Inside the Animus they just give you a city to explore and icons for memories to unlock as direction through the game's story.

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muskokas finest, on 19 February 2012 - 08:23 AM, said:

Sequel to AC2 = AC3.....semantics.  AC3 better be a working title cause this franchise needs a new direction.

Brotherhood and Revelations weren't a continuation of the series, they were a continuation of Ezio's story, thus the reason they were given subtitles instead of being called AC 3 & 4. They were expansions, not sequels.

AC 3 will have a completely new character.

I hope they NEVER make a fully modern AC game with guns and stuff. The most fascinating thing about these games is how they weave their stories into real world history and bring forgotten eras back to life so vividly. Who would have ever thought a video game would be set in the Italian renessaince that we would actually care about?

I've got a rather huge gripe about this series though, and that's the whole future/sci-fi aspect of it. I wish Desmond and the modern day was never even apart of this game, and instead the "ancestors" were the actual real time story. Following, in real-time, an ancient order of assassins fighting an ancient order of Templars and having it tie in with big historical events and important figures in history is way cooler than whatever they're ******* doing with futuristic DNA-reading machines and Adam & Eve and greek Gods being real.

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Ezio had a gun...

But yes I agree that guns becoming more prominent would be a very poor decision by the development team.  As much as they emphasize stealth among the Assassins, I would think they try to stay away from it.

The memory segments of Desmonds life in Revelations really bored the **** out of me.  I just wanted them to be over.  Tower defense mini-game was pretty awful as well.  The Subject 16 puzzles were great in AC2 and Brotherhood imo but Revelations was kind of a weak link in that regard.

AC3 should be awesome.  It's beyond time to get on with the series.

[Billy Pilgrim]

I have never finished Revelations. I made it to the very first tower defense mini game and after I finally finished it I got up, took the game out of the XBOX, put it back in the box and drove to GameStop for store credit. It was perhaps the worst thing I had ever experienced in video games. I youtube'd all the cutscenes and the end.

These games really have nothing to do with stealth though. It's a combat game, not a stealth game. You don't even have the ability to sneak and more often than not, you're leaping off the top of a building in broad day light in the middle of a town square on top of someone, which is then followed by slaughtering 10 guards in front of everyone. I have no problem with that at all, but the Assassins aren't real geared towards stealth in this game.

Edited by Billy Pilgrim, 22 February 2012 - 07:42 PM.

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Billy Pilgrim, on 22 February 2012 - 07:42 PM, said:

I have never finished Revelations. I made it to the very first tower defense mini game and after I finally finished it I got up, took the game out of the XBOX, put it back in the box and drove to GameStop for store credit. It was perhaps the worst thing I had ever experienced in video games. I youtube'd all the cutscenes and the end.

These games really have nothing to do with stealth though. It's a combat game, not a stealth game. You don't even have the ability to sneak and more often than not, you're leaping off the top of a building in broad day light in the middle of a town square on top of someone, which is then followed by slaughtering 10 guards in front of everyone. I have no problem with that at all, but the Assassins aren't real geared towards stealth in this game.

Perhaps not in a realistic manner, but AC isn't exactly realistic.  You are encouraged to blend into the crowd and create distractions in order to not be detected.  Many targets flee if you are spotted... many missions stop on the spot if you are spotted and you have to retry without being detected.  Kinda hard to argue that stealth isn't part of the equation.  All the things you say are true with regards to AC gameplay, but you can also jump in a pile of hay for a few minutes and everyone forgets you just killed a dozen people.

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Billy Pilgrim, on 22 February 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

I hope they NEVER make a fully modern AC game with guns and stuff. The most fascinating thing about these games is how they weave their stories into real world history and bring forgotten eras back to life so vividly. Who would have ever thought a video game would be set in the Italian renessaince that we would actually care about?

THIS!!


It would be dumb to have a game with modern guns. The gun that Ezio uses is acceptable and

it worked fine for the game style. And you're right, game would of been better with just the

history and not the whole Desmond thing. If they would of done that, I think they would've had

more ideas to work with. Once they hit a modern date, it's pretty much over. And also there is

a big gap from Altair to Ezio's time, another Assassin's story could of been made in between

the two.

[KGrillz]

They are making another one? It is starting to be like Call of Duty with its annual releases. I loved AC2 and ACB was ok. I didn't play ACR because I was burnt out on the AC franchise. I wish they would stop awhile. It is starting to become stale. I will probably pass on AC3.

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KGrillz, on 23 February 2012 - 10:23 AM, said:

They are making another one? It is starting to be like Call of Duty with its annual releases. I loved AC2 and ACB was ok. I didn't play ACR because I was burnt out on the AC franchise. I wish they would stop awhile. It is starting to become stale. I will probably pass on AC3.

You are definitely not alone.  But it seems like these companies have seen how profitable the Madden blueprint is and they are following it... offering new games with just enough stuff that's different to keep most people buying it.  I think AC is really suffering from it though because AC2 and Brotherhood were very big steps in the right direction in terms of perfecting the AC style of game... they set a high standard for quality, but Revelations came off as a complete filler game to milk the franchise and fanbase some more.  AC3 has to be amazing or they run the risk of completely running the franchise into the ground.

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COD needs to take a break for awhile, say 2 years.

Edited by Skar, 24 February 2012 - 12:41 PM.

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Skar, on 24 February 2012 - 12:40 PM, said:

COD needs to take a break for awhile, say 2 years.

Needs to but it won't... it's rumored to be a Treyarch developed game.  Activision confirmed there would be a new Call of Duty released in 2012 shortly after MW3 released.  Black Ops 2 more than likely imo.  Probably set before and around the Gulf War, but that's just speculation on my part.

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Carter, on 24 February 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

Needs to but it won't... it's rumored to be a Treyarch developed game.  Activision confirmed there would be a new Call of Duty released in 2012 shortly after MW3 released.  Black Ops 2 more than likely imo.  Probably set before and around the Gulf War, but that's just speculation on my part.

They are being rushed out.

[Billy Pilgrim]

Carter, on 22 February 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

Perhaps not in a realistic manner, but AC isn't exactly realistic.  You are encouraged to blend into the crowd and create distractions in order to not be detected.  Many targets flee if you are spotted... many missions stop on the spot if you are spotted and you have to retry without being detected.  Kinda hard to argue that stealth isn't part of the equation.  All the things you say are true with regards to AC gameplay, but you can also jump in a pile of hay for a few minutes and everyone forgets you just killed a dozen people.

Are you really encouraged to do that though? Is there any kind of consequence if you don't do it that way save for little achievement trophies that nobody actually cares about?

The combat in this game is elementary. Hold one button, and hit another right as someone attacks, and you start a deadly dance of spinning death that can't be stopped. There's no strategy involved in how you play the actual game, and it's actually more feasible and less time consuming to just run in and slaughter every person in front of you, and it's almost like the game wants you to because they make it so easy to run through 10 guys in a matter of seconds.