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[trudweathers]

I watched a show on NFL the other night. It detailed the breakthrough Super Bowl run the Colt's made when they beat the Bears for the 2006 championship. Somehow I'd forgotten all the years of 1 and done disappointment Manning and the Colts suffered prior to getting that victory. They were pretty much a joke in the playoffs until then. In the first 2 years of Peyton's career they didn't see the playoffs. They didn't see a playoff win of any type till Manning's 5th year in the league.  

_{Feb. 4, 2007 Super Bowl XLI    Indianapolis 29, Chicago 17
Jan. 13, 2007    AFC Divisional Indianapolis 15, Baltimore 6
Jan. 6, 2007 AFC Wild Card Indianapolis 23, Kansas City 8
Jan. 15, 2006    AFC Divisional Pittsburgh 21, Indianapolis 18
Jan. 16, 2005    AFC Divisional New England 20, Indianapolis 3
Jan. 9, 2005 AFC Wild Card Indianapolis 49, Denver 24
Jan. 18, 2004    AFC Championship    New England 24, Indianapolis 14
Jan. 11, 2004    AFC Divisional Colts 38, Chiefs 31
Jan. 4, 2004 AFC Wild Card Colts 41, Broncos 10
Jan. 4, 2003 AFC Wild Card Jets 41, Colts 0
Dec. 30, 2000   AFC Wild Card Miami 23, Indianapolis 17 (OT)
Jan. 16, 2000    AFC Divisional Tennessee 19, Indianapolis 16}

I'm not saying Matt Ryan is the next Payton Manning but then again, if some of the more vocal doubters were Colt's fans sitting on Peyton Manning back in the year 2000 wouldn't you be jumping to conclusions as well.

I say give Matt a great defense and some decent blocking and let's see where this thing goes.

[Miller2Rison]

Matt is the most consistant QB we have ever had play for this team but the kid does have his flaws, i just hope he wants to improve. IMO he played scared in this last playoff game, maybe had some bad memories of the pick 6 against green bay and didnt want that to happen again but he played so conservative we scored 0 points on offense, of course we went for it when we should have kicked field goals and the giants scored touchdowns instead of field goals

Matt is the most consistant QB we have ever had play for this team but the kid does have his flaws, i just hope he wants to improve. IMO he played scared in this last playoff game, maybe had some bad memories of the pick 6 against green bay and didnt want that to happen again but he played so conservative we scored 0 points on offense, of course we went for it when we should have kicked field goals and the giants scored touchdowns instead of field goals

[T.Mays]

Honestly this is not a shot a Ryan but anyone will take Big Ben or Eli career over Peyton. No matter how good you are it means nothing with out the hardware. Thats the whole purpose of the season. But I believe Matt have the ability to get us the ring. But if you ask me I rather his career go the way of Eli if it means he will get 2 rings.

Edited by T.Mays, 14 February 2012 - 06:07 PM.

[trudweathers]

I think we all see that Matt wants to get better and I bet he's his own worst critic. Yes I'd take and Eli or Big Ben(minus molesting teenage girls) as a career target, and while were talking Eli... There have been more than a few doubters on his butt... even at the start of last season.

[Miller2Rison]

u can keep Eli, i dont care how good he is we dont need  peyton's down syndrome lil brother

Edited by Miller2Rison, 14 February 2012 - 06:17 PM.

[uga2006]

T.Mays, on 14 February 2012 - 06:06 PM, said:

Honestly this is not a shot a Ryan but anyone will take Big Ben or Eli career over Peyton. No matter how good you are it means nothing with out the hardware. Thats the whole purpose of the season. But I believe Matt have the ability to get us the ring. But if you ask me I rather his career go the way of Eli if it means he will get 2 rings.

Lets be honest here. The Giants and Steelers defenses for the those super bowl wins were light years ahead of any defense Peyton had to work with.

Edited by uga2006, 14 February 2012 - 07:18 PM.

[T.Mays]

uga2006, on 14 February 2012 - 07:18 PM, said:

Lets be honest here. The Giants and Steelers defenses for the those super bowl wins were light years ahead of any defense Peyton had to work with.

The Giants D was the colts D a great D line and nothing else.

[Atl/0]

You guys really trying to pull the Peyton Manning argument out again? Go check how many pro bowls and MVP's he won before his team finally won one before you disrespect him like that.

[jacobi]

Atl/0, on 14 February 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

You guys really trying to pull the Peyton Manning argument out again? Go check how many pro bowls and MVP's he won before his team finally won one before you disrespect him like that.

Were are not trying to disrespect him. All we are saying is that despite Mannining's individual abilities, the Colts did not win the big one until all facets of the team were playing at their highest caliber. Football is a team sport and winning the big one requires tremendous output from all the team players.

Edited by jacobi, 14 February 2012 - 07:37 PM.

[FalconFanSince1970]

It took Peyton a few years to get his first playoff victory. It took him a few more years to get his first Lombardi and his defense carried him to that one. They were sorry during the regular season but when Bob Mathis came back they were #1 in the playoffs and carried Manning to the Lombardi. He would probably agree with that. With that said, Peyton is one of the best QBs I've ever seen in the NFL and I've seen just about all of em since the Starr, Unitas days.

[stoned_jc7]

I love how people here have already forgotten how bad this team has been in the past. Before Matt Ryan our best QBs were Chris Chandler, Chris Miller. Jeff George. And Mike Vick.

Matt Ryan isn't the best QB in the League. But he is the best We have ever had. And while I guess he does have flaws that just makes him a lot like us. A little dysfunctional and diluted. But doing the best he can with what he has.
For me all I have to look at is his record as a starter. He is a good QB. Could be great. The playoffs success will come.

[Torris]

Atl/0, on 14 February 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

You guys really trying to pull the Peyton Manning argument out again? Go check how many pro bowls and MVP's he won before his team finally won one before you disrespect him like that.

[Falconsfan567™]

FalconFanSince1970, on 14 February 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

It took Peyton a few years to get his first playoff victory. It took him a few more years to get his first Lombardi and his defense carried him to that one. They were sorry during the regular season but when Bob Mathis came back they were #1 in the playoffs and carried Manning to the Lombardi. He would probably agree with that. With that said, Peyton is one of the best QBs I've ever seen in the NFL and I've seen just about all of em since the Starr, Unitas days.

That is exactly correct. In fact Peyton Manning set the NFL record for most interceptions thrown in a single postseason by a Super Bowl winning QB.

[NJDirtyBird7]

Peyton made the colts who they are.  Without him they would have been nothing.  Just take a look, last season they were a playoff team.  This year, they were the WORST team.  Matt Ryan is no Peyton Manning.

Edited by NJDirtyBird7, 14 February 2012 - 08:53 PM.

[Torris]

NJDirtyBird7, on 14 February 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

Peyton made the colts who they are.  Without him they would have been nothing.  Just take a look, last season they were a playoff team.  This year, they were the WORST team.  Matt Ryan is no Peyton Manning.

The Bucs might argue against that statement, lol.

[NJDirtyBird7]

Undefendable, on 14 February 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

The Bucs might argue against that statement, lol.

lol touché, but in all fairness freeman is not peyton manning.

Edited by NJDirtyBird7, 14 February 2012 - 09:03 PM.

[Torris]

NJDirtyBird7, on 14 February 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:

lol touché, but in all fairness freeman is not peyton manning.

Of course he isn't. His team sucked worse with him, than without him. You get blown out by the 32nd ranked offense, and you should hang your hang in shame, lol

[Darkflight]

Sigh this again...Matt Ryan is not as good as Peyton Manning. Point blank period. Again this is not a knock on Ryan. There's no shame in not being as good as Peyton. Only 3-4 qbs in the league are on Peyton's level.

[paulitik]

Darkflight, on 14 February 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

Sigh this again...Matt Ryan is not as good as Peyton Manning. Point blank period. Again this is not a knock on Ryan. There's no shame in not being as good as Peyton. Only 3-4 qbs in the league are on Peyton's level.

I don't think in 4 seasons Matt is that far behind Peyton in his first 4 seasons. Not quite where Manning was, but not that far behind either.

[jacobi]

paulitik, on 14 February 2012 - 10:04 PM, said:

I don't think in 4 seasons Matt is that far behind Peyton in his first 4 seasons. Not quite where Manning was, but not that far behind either.

Stats wise, there not different although Peyton's are a bit better

Edited by jacobi, 14 February 2012 - 11:27 PM.