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Re-sign

Brent Grimes
Curtis Lofton
Kroy Biermann
HD
James Sanders
Kelvin Hayden
Thomas DeCoud

Release/Retire

John Abraham
Tony Gonzalez
Eric Weems
Mike Peterson
Chris Redman
Jason Snelling
Brett Romberg
Todd McLure

Free Agency

Greg Olsen/Jermichael Finley
Nick Hardwick
Brady Quinn


Draft


Round 2: Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall

6-3, 265lbs, Curry would be an ideal long term replacement for Abe. He has great speed and burst, as well as being able to hold up pretty well against the run. Currently has 17 TFL and 9.5 sacks through 7 games. In 2010 he had 19 TFL and 12 sacks.

Round 3: Andrew Datko, LT, Florida State

6-6, 320 lbs, Datko has stonewalled some of college footballs best DE's over the last few years, including Derrick Morgan, Robert Quinn and DaQuan Bowers. Out for the season with a shoulder injury, otherwise would have been a 1st round pick. Only gave up 1 sack in 2010.

Round 5: Nigel Bradham, LB, Florida State

6-3, 240lbs, Bradham is a versatile LB who could play all three spots in our system. He has great sideline to sideline speed and can hit. He reminds me of a poor mans Spoon.

Round 5 (comp from Koenen): Omar Bolden, CB, Arizona State

5-10, 195 lbs, 4 year starter at corner. He has 7 INT's and 21 PBU's in his career. He's a great kick returner averaging 29.2 yards per kickof and is known to be a high character in the dressing room. Would have been a day 1 or day 2 pick, but damaged his ACL back in April and has yet to appear this year.

Round 6: Brandon Bolden, RB, Ole Miss

5-11, 220 lbs jack of trades type running back. Had 976 yards and 14 TD's rushing last year, to go along with 32 receptions for 344 yards and 3 TD's. Also plays gunner on punt coverage. He would be a perfect replacement for Snelling - with probably a higher ceiling

Round 7: Travian Robertson, DT, South Carolina

6-4, 305 lbs defensive tackle who wrecked havoc last year with 10 TFL and 4 sacks. Has struggled with injuries so far this year, hence why he is available in the 7th.


UDFA

Blair Walsh, K, Georgia
Drew Butler, P, Georgia

[hjerry]

Vinny curry and Omar Bolden will not fall that far. However besides that I like the picks. I've been looking at both boldens for a while now.

[Kennesaw77]

I'm not on board with letting Redman, Weems, go.

Drew Butler is not going to go undrafted.

I could easily see Curry falling that far.

I HATE the idea of bringing in Quinn as a backup.

[vel]

Not to be harsh but I don't like anything about this lol

I think Tony G and Abe come back for 2-3 year contracts unless we win a SB. Curry is more of a 3-4 OLB in my opinion. He reminds me of Sidbury at this point and if we can get Abe back for 2-3 more years, we can use a 1st on a stud DE.

I think if OT is still an issue that needs addressing, then attack it in the 2nd with guys like Potter, Adams, Reynolds. Why wait til the 3rd where not many OTs are found, let alone start from day 1. I am hoping Svitek sticks so we don't have to address the position at all.

I don't think we get a LB this year with Adkins and Dent in the mix. Yea Pete will be gone but I don't see a need to replace him unless a good prospect falls.

I don't really know the guys besides the first two so I can't really comment on them. I just think OT should be the first thing addressed right now and then we can go BPA the rest of the way.

But I know you can handle the heat and this is just my opinion. It's just hard covering all of the bases with fewer picks and a weak FA class.

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vel, on 03 November 2011 - 02:34 PM, said:

Not to be harsh but I don't like anything about this lol

I think Tony G and Abe come back for 2-3 year contracts unless we win a SB. Curry is more of a 3-4 OLB in my opinion. He reminds me of Sidbury at this point and if we can get Abe back for 2-3 more years, we can use a 1st on a stud DE.

I think if OT is still an issue that needs addressing, then attack it in the 2nd with guys like Potter, Adams, Reynolds. Why wait til the 3rd where not many OTs are found, let alone start from day 1. I am hoping Svitek sticks so we don't have to address the position at all.

I don't think we get a LB this year with Adkins and Dent in the mix. Yea Pete will be gone but I don't see a need to replace him unless a good prospect falls.

I don't really know the guys besides the first two so I can't really comment on them. I just think OT should be the first thing addressed right now and then we can go BPA the rest of the way.

But I know you can handle the heat and this is just my opinion. It's just hard covering all of the bases with fewer picks and a weak FA class.

I'd love to have TG and Abe back, but i just can't see it. Between the two of them this year they account for 18.5M of the salary cap. If we want to re-sign some of our younger guys then there has to be cuts made elsewhere - especially seeing as we were right up against the cap this year.

For me, Datko is just as good as those guys but he's going to fall with the shoulder injury. Coming in to the season I had him ranked higher than Potter, Adams and Reynolds.

We are good at LB, so I hear you there, but good teams stack up on their strongest areas.

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Kennesaw77, on 03 November 2011 - 02:23 PM, said:

I'm not on board with letting Redman, Weems, go.

Drew Butler is not going to go undrafted.

I could easily see Curry falling that far.

I HATE the idea of bringing in Quinn as a backup.

I'm just thinking of it from a finance point of view - we have $3M tied up in a 35 year old QB and returner.

Maybe Butler will get drafted, but Chas Henry went undrafted so there is precedent.

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hjerry, on 03 November 2011 - 02:07 PM, said:

Vinny curry and Omar Bolden will not fall that far. However besides that I like the picks. I've been looking at both boldens for a while now.

Omar Bolden tore his ACL in April, he won't go that high in a deep CB class.

I seriously think Brandon Bolden is underated.

[vel]

Smiler11, on 03 November 2011 - 04:15 PM, said:

I'd love to have TG and Abe back, but i just can't see it. Between the two of them this year they account for 18.5M of the salary cap. If we want to re-sign some of our younger guys then there has to be cuts made elsewhere - especially seeing as we were right up against the cap this year.

For me, Datko is just as good as those guys but he's going to fall with the shoulder injury. Coming in to the season I had him ranked higher than Potter, Adams and Reynolds.

We are good at LB, so I hear you there, but good teams stack up on their strongest areas.

I understand the cap issue with Abe and Tony G but unless they are retiring, I doubt they are going anywhere. Tony has around 3 years left in him in my opinion. Abe may not be a double digit guy after this year but he is still better than a lot of guys and I would rather a 1st round guy next year.

I like Datko just think addressing LT early would be a better idea.

And I agree, stack up where you are strong. Personally, I think that would mean get more offensive weapons (ie Polk and Fleener). I think getting Polk in the 2nd and Fleener in the third would make our offense that much more dangerous (MM is gone after this year) as we would have Turner's replacement and a pass catching RB with speed and a stud TE to learn behind TG.

Personally, I think KB and Sidbury are both REs and could handle Abe's spot collectively. Sidbury has 2 sacks this year already.

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vel, on 03 November 2011 - 07:37 PM, said:

I understand the cap issue with Abe and Tony G but unless they are retiring, I doubt they are going anywhere. Tony has around 3 years left in him in my opinion. Abe may not be a double digit guy after this year but he is still better than a lot of guys and I would rather a 1st round guy next year.

I like Datko just think addressing LT early would be a better idea.

And I agree, stack up where you are strong. Personally, I think that would mean get more offensive weapons (ie Polk and Fleener). I think getting Polk in the 2nd and Fleener in the third would make our offense that much more dangerous (MM is gone after this year) as we would have Turner's replacement and a pass catching RB with speed and a stud TE to learn behind TG.

Personally, I think KB and Sidbury are both REs and could handle Abe's spot collectively. Sidbury has 2 sacks this year already.

I agree, I think Kroy, SIdbury and Mathews are all better suited to play right end, and maybe between them we already have Abe's replacement.

I love Polk, but I can't see him lasting until late 2nd. Fleener is a good player, but I don't see him as a huge upgrade over Palmer.

[vel]

I am starting to come around to Curry. I am happy the OLine has solidified itself and adding Curry would put pressure on Biermann to shape up or ship out and give us a stable of DEs that are all dangerous but not put pressure on needing Curry to contribute extremely early. The risk is his stock skyrocketing in workouts. He looks like he can make that happen. If he is there though, I think he should be the pick

The way Svitek has played though, I think you can change that 3rd round pick. I'd say take a RB there since that is one area that lacks depth if Snelling walks. There has been consistent talk about LaMichael James being a third rounder due to injury concerns and lack of size. If he falls to the third, do you take him? A backfield of Turner, Quizz, and James would be extremely packer. Turner is the big time bruiser, Quizz is the well rounded runner, and James is the pure lightning.

If Curry and James were the first two picks of the 2012 draft, you can say what you want about TD and the Julio trade, but that is one heII of an outcome.

Edited by vel, 07 November 2011 - 05:53 PM.

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vel, on 07 November 2011 - 05:52 PM, said:

I am starting to come around to Curry. I am happy the OLine has solidified itself and adding Curry would put pressure on Biermann to shape up or ship out and give us a stable of DEs that are all dangerous but not put pressure on needing Curry to contribute extremely early. The risk is his stock skyrocketing in workouts. He looks like he can make that happen. If he is there though, I think he should be the pick

The way Svitek has played though, I think you can change that 3rd round pick. I'd say take a RB there since that is one area that lacks depth if Snelling walks. There has been consistent talk about LaMichael James being a third rounder due to injury concerns and lack of size. If he falls to the third, do you take him? A backfield of Turner, Quizz, and James would be extremely packer. Turner is the big time bruiser, Quizz is the well rounded runner, and James is the pure lightning.

If Curry and James were the first two picks of the 2012 draft, you can say what you want about TD and the Julio trade, but that is one heII of an outcome.

Curry would be a perfect replacement for Abe at RE. I definitely see him as more of a 4-3 DE than 3-4 OLB. The other thing is with the defense we run, getting pressure is key and we can't afford a huge drop off if/when Abe leaves.

I think we need a running back to a) take over from Snelling who I think will be gone, be able to ultimately pick up some of the slack, with Quizz, once Turner is done. I just don't see that in James. Whilst he is a matchup nightmare, I see him as more of a luxary pick as we'd still need to draft someone as a replacement for Turner.

The O-line looks infinitly better, but I'm still not convinced. I think we go O-line with one of our first 2 picks, and it might very well be our 2nd round pick seeing as there should be a good number of quality O-Line projected in and around the 2nd.

[vel]

How do you feel about drafting Vick Ballard from MISS ST?

[g-dawg]

Re-sign

Brent Grimes AGREED   
Curtis Lofton AGREED   
Kroy Biermann  AGREED
HD AGREED   
James Sanders  AGREED   
Kelvin Hayden    AGREED
Thomas DeCoud - LET HIM WALK, HE'S AWFUL

Release/Retire

John Abraham UNLESS HE WILL TAKE 2YR INCENTIVELADEN DEAL - AGREE
Tony Gonzalez - SAME AS ABRAHAM
Eric Weems - BUH-BYE!
Mike Peterson BUH-BYE!
Chris Redman BUH-BYE
Jason Snelling  KEEP HIM ONLY IF CHEAP
Brett Romberg  BUH BYE!
Todd McLure BUH BYE! - BEEN A GREAT PLAYER BUT TIME TO RETIRE.

Free Agency

Greg Olsen/Jermichael Finley - FINLEY WOULD BE FRANCHISED PANTHERS GAVE UP HIGH PICK FOR OLSEN - HE'S PROBABLY NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
Nick Hardwick - I LIKE IT
Brady Quinn - PROBABLY WOULD BE BETTER THAN REDMAN


Draft   I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE DRAFT PROSPECTS YET TO RENDER OPINION.   I WOULD PLACE OUR NEEDS THOUGH IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER

1.  Left Tackle
2.  Cornerback
3.  Defensive End
4.  Running Back
5.  Tight End
6.  Offensive Guard


Round 2: Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall

6-3, 265lbs, Curry would be an ideal long term replacement for Abe. He has great speed and burst, as well as being able to hold up pretty well against the run. Currently has 17 TFL and 9.5 sacks through 7 games. In 2010 he had 19 TFL and 12 sacks.

Round 3: Andrew Datko, LT, Florida State

6-6, 320 lbs, Datko has stonewalled some of college footballs best DE's over the last few years, including Derrick Morgan, Robert Quinn and DaQuan Bowers. Out for the season with a shoulder injury, otherwise would have been a 1st round pick. Only gave up 1 sack in 2010.

Round 5: Nigel Bradham, LB, Florida State

6-3, 240lbs, Bradham is a versatile LB who could play all three spots in our system. He has great sideline to sideline speed and can hit. He reminds me of a poor mans Spoon.

Round 5 (comp from Koenen): Omar Bolden, CB, Arizona State

5-10, 195 lbs, 4 year starter at corner. He has 7 INT's and 21 PBU's in his career. He's a great kick returner averaging 29.2 yards per kickof and is known to be a high character in the dressing room. Would have been a day 1 or day 2 pick, but damaged his ACL back in April and has yet to appear this year.

Round 6: Brandon Bolden, RB, Ole Miss

5-11, 220 lbs jack of trades type running back. Had 976 yards and 14 TD's rushing last year, to go along with 32 receptions for 344 yards and 3 TD's. Also plays gunner on punt coverage. He would be a perfect replacement for Snelling - with probably a higher ceiling

Round 7: Travian Robertson, DT, South Carolina

6-4, 305 lbs defensive tackle who wrecked havoc last year with 10 TFL and 4 sacks. Has struggled with injuries so far this year, hence why he is available in the 7th.


UDFA

Blair Walsh, K, Georgia - HE'S BEEN AWFUL THIS YEAR....
Drew Butler, P, Georgia

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vel, on 09 November 2011 - 08:35 AM, said:

How do you feel about drafting Vick Ballard from MISS ST?

Yeah I like him, seems pretty similar to Bolden. The only thing I worry about is he's struggled against good defenses this year - LSU and South Carolina come to mind, although they both stacked the box against him.

[Kennesaw77]

Smiler11, on 09 November 2011 - 02:10 PM, said:

Yeah I like him, seems pretty similar to Bolden. The only thing I worry about is he's struggled against good defenses this year - LSU and South Carolina come to mind, although they both stacked the box against him.

not only that but Bolden has a better O.line than Ballard.

[Smiler11]

At least I got Robertson right. Everything else was way off

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Smiler11, on 02 May 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:

At least I got Robertson right. Everything else was way off

Your round grade from some of those guys was pretty good too.

' timestamp=, on 03 November 2011 - 02:07 PM, said:

Vinny curry and Omar Bolden will not fall that far.

This isn't meant to point fingers at this poster, we all do it. But, I hope next offseason no one makes a comment like this...unless you have an "in" at a pro scouting department, you don't know.