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Will Michael Vick be Traded or Released

Michael Vick - Traded or Released?   104 members have voted

  1. 1. Do you think ultimately that Michael Vick will be traded or released?

    • Traded
      44
    • Released
      60
  2. 2. If Traded, what would Falcons receive for Michael Vick?

    • 2nd round choice
      5
    • 3rd round choice
      14
    • 4th round choice
      9
    • 5th round choice
      16
    • 6th round choice
      10
    • 7th round choice
      42
    • current NFL player
      8

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I still think it will be very difficult to trade Michael Vick. It will take a "three sided agreement" because the Atlanta Falcons, another NFL team AND Michael Vick will all have to agree.

Q: Why does Michael Vick have to agree the trade you ask?

A: Well because he has a current NFL contract that is one of the most lucrative in all of the NFL and his market value now is probably less than 20% of the contract - so, to trade Mike means you also are trading his contract and the "assuming team" assumes the contract -

Q: Will another team want to assume that contract?

A: Ummmmmm..........NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Q: So what does that mean?

A: It means that Vick will have to agree to take less......

Q: Will Vick agree to take less money than what is on his contract so the Atlanta Falcons can trade him?

A: I don't think so......

Q: Why not you ask? Vick and his agent has to know that nobody is going to pay him on his existing contract, right?

A: Of course Vick and his agent know this but they will want to control the situation and get multiple bidders so they can maximize Vick's new contract. They can only do this if he is a free agent. Therefore, I do not think they will "help" the Falcons - just my thoughts - could be wrong but this is my theory. If we do get a pick for Michael, I would think it would be no higher than a 4th rounder - probably more like a 6th rounder though....

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He'll get released. It'll be cheaper to wait for us to release him and pay him that 7.5 million. No team would want to trade for him and take on that contract or endure the bad press from animal activists, lovers, etc. OR have the news about Vick be the dominate theme in the media moreso than the actual team that he's on. (*see our last MNF game)

If he happens to miraculously get traded, then I would expect we wouldn't get higher than a 5th round pick for him.

P.S. - Man, I hate that guy.

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A team like the 49ers that "badly" need a QB should go after Vick and offers something in a trade to avoid having to compete for him with some other team. No matter what some posters same Vick is a better option at QB for several teams, and then some owners have no guts and are not doing enough to win in the first place.

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It won't take my vote either but I say released.

that is odd....wonder why it won't take some of your votes........I'm sure Al "I wuz wobbed" Gore will protest this outcome since we have "hanging chads" :rolleyes:

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Seeing as how they tried to trade his rights away once and no one knocked on the door - I say released.

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It doesn't take the vote if you don't answer both questions.

He'll get cut, since he has no trade value it all ... and I doubt any team will sign him to much more than a vet-minimum 1-year contract. And one thing is for sure, teams won't be lining up for him, since he's a PR nightmare. As owner you need either a strong fanbase that trusts you 100% (don't see one like that in the NFL) or a very desperate one.

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Released and then picked up by a team which he will lead to glory for seasons to come while Matt will end up like Ryan Leaf.

We're doomed I say you..doomed!!!

And my hones oppinion, I couldn't care less what happends him, as long as he's not on our roster i'm happy.

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It doesn't take the vote if you don't answer both questions.

He'll get cut, since he has no trade value it all ... and I doubt any team will sign him to much more than a vet-minimum 1-year contract. And one thing is for sure, teams won't be lining up for him, since he's a PR nightmare. As owner you need either a strong fanbase that trusts you 100% (don't see one like that in the NFL) or a very desperate one.

How do you know this? Most teams feel that he is still under suspension so why trade, also he could not negotiate a new contract while still in prison. Just because no team was publicized as wanting to trade does not mean noone wanted to.

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How do you know this? Most teams feel that he is still under suspension so why trade, also he could not negotiate a new contract while still in prison. Just because no team was publicized as wanting to trade does not mean noone wanted to.

Because it's obvious ... why trade for somebody when I can have him for free, since the owner of the team already said that he won't play for the team again!? Yes, there are some teams who might be desperate enough to give it a try, but without giving up draft picks and for 1year with the veteran minimum as salary ... if he proves himself, they can always give him a new contract, if he doesn't, he's a cheap backup, or it doesn't hurt your cap if you cut him.

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I wonder if Goodell's idea of "showing remorse" might include Vick renegotiating his contract with us so that we can get some compensation by trading him. After all, you could argue that it's the "right thing" for him to do, since he harmed our team by all of this. Without some kind of pressure tied to whether or not he gets reinstated, I don't see why he would renegotiate.

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I hope he is traded and I put fifth but I put he will be released because I think his contract will dictate him being untradable. No one will pay that contract right now. I would say Mike would renegotiate to be tradable but he still thinks he can make 10 plus mil a year. That is not happening.

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I wonder if Goodell's idea of "showing remorse" might include Vick renegotiating his contract with us so that we can get some compensation by trading him. After all, you could argue that it's the "right thing" for him to do, since he harmed our team by all of this. Without some kind of pressure tied to whether or not he gets reinstated, I don't see why he would renegotiate.

I think Goodell would be "overstepping his bounds" if he put pressure on Vick to renegotiate his deal with the Falcons which would just help the Falcons trade Vick. I am sure the NFL Players Association would not allow this to happen.

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I think Goodell would be "overstepping his bounds" if he put pressure on Vick to renegotiate his deal with the Falcons which would just help the Falcons trade Vick. I am sure the NFL Players Association would not allow this to happen.

x2. No way would they allow it.

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it wont take my vote, but my choice was released.

I chose release myself but still voted that "if traded" it would be for 6th rounder. The whole reason I did the double poll was so that if you did vote released, you could still vote on the "if traded" what would Falcons get - go back and vote in both!

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Because it's obvious ... why trade for somebody when I can have him for free, since the owner of the team already said that he won't play for the team again!? Yes, there are some teams who might be desperate enough to give it a try, but without giving up draft picks and for 1year with the veteran minimum as salary ... if he proves himself, they can always give him a new contract, if he doesn't, he's a cheap backup, or it doesn't hurt your cap if you cut him.

You are right , why trade for him if you can have him for free? The problem is , will you be the only team after him? No one person can answer for all 32 teams or 3 teams. The only guarentee is the Falcons and even that could change. For example the 49ers do need a QB, they wait. some other team's starter gets injured and the backup is a nobody and they make a play for him then his price has doubled. And saying what type of contract that a team would offer is just as bad as saying no team wants him. It's all wishful thinking on your part because you and no oneelse has any idea of what will happen period. So it's not obvious except to the people that hhate him so much they want nothing to happen in a positive way .

I wonder if Goodell's idea of "showing remorse" might include Vick renegotiating his contract with us so that we can get some compensation by trading him. After all, you could argue that it's the "right thing" for him to do, since he harmed our team by all of this. Without some kind of pressure tied to whether or not he gets reinstated, I don't see why he would renegotiate.

The Commish may want to do just that but the problem is he cannot leagally rule on what is done with a players contract that has already been signed. He can only keep him suspended and if it it only to try to force him to re-negotiate the NFLPA would have him in court in no time. His job is not to dictate contracts but to follow the rules of the CBA.

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You are right , why trade for him if you can have him for free? The problem is , will you be the only team after him? No one person can answer for all 32 teams or 3 teams. The only guarentee is the Falcons and even that could change. For example the 49ers do need a QB, they wait. some other team's starter gets injured and the backup is a nobody and they make a play for him then his price has doubled. And saying what type of contract that a team would offer is just as bad as saying no team wants him. It's all wishful thinking on your part because you and no oneelse has any idea of what will happen period. So it's not obvious except to the people that hhate him so much they want nothing to happen in a positive way .

You can dream all you want ... I did like Vick, before the first clues of his illegal actions came out, he was exciting, but not very good. Now after sitting around not playing football for so long, all that's left is his athletic ability and well, we don't know how much he was able to do in prison to keep that at a high level. If a GM is stupid enough to cough up a 7t, I'm happy with it, but I seriously doubt it. Or does Al Davis need a QB?

Edit: Just after watching the interviews, to all reporters out there secretly readying the forum: Stop asking everybody about Vick ... this is a new TEAM and not the Mike Vick show.

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whatever happens get him off our roster and out of this town. my god, going to ajc's falcon page is like steping into the Vick version of "being john malcovich". Whatever has, is and might happen to the dog killer. F#@k mv, f#@ck ajc.

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It would seem that the only leverage the Falcons have would be the timing of the release. There is no doubt in my mind that the Falcons don't intend to pay Vick one more penny, however, why give up his rights before you have to? Goodell might do us a favor and keep him on indefinite suspension until some kind of deal is worked out (ala PacMan). But even if he is declared eligible in a couple of months (when his term is up), why release him immediately when you don't have to pay him til the season starts? Any team that wants to utilize Vick 'this year' would want him in their camp ASAP so he could learn the system and the players -- if we waited until the first payday to cut him, it would probably be too late for him to have a major impact this season. This would hurt Vick & could prompt his agent to make a deal.

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I know this will cost us monet but he will cost us one way or the other. Keep him on the suspended list all year and make it another year before he can play.

As far as I'm concerned like Mike Golic said playing in the NFL is a privilege not a right and I think he should not be allowed back period.

The only thing he has earned the right is to be given a second chance at is to earn a living at a job. But sorry he throw away the privilege to ever play in the NFL again.

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You can dream all you want ... I did like Vick, before the first clues of his illegal actions came out, he was exciting, but not very good. Now after sitting around not playing football for so long, all that's left is his athletic ability and well, we don't know how much he was able to do in prison to keep that at a high level. If a GM is stupid enough to cough up a 7t, I'm happy with it, but I seriously doubt it. Or does Al Davis need a QB?

Edit: Just after watching the interviews, to all reporters out there secretly readying the forum: Stop asking everybody about Vick ... this is a new TEAM and not the Mike Vick show.

See there you go just like a lot of posters making sh-- up to make yourself feel go about what you say. When and where did a dream or dreaming have anything to do with what I said? It's an opinion stupid!!! You did not have to reply if you don't agree.

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I voted on what I hope, and that is that we get something from him being here, a 7th rounder through a trade, instead of just the black eye that the team had to take for him playing here.

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After what we have seen over the last few years, there a number of owners who believe there is no such thing as a PR nightmare, or too much media frenzy. Al and Jerry being at the top of the list. I realize that they have established QB, but both the 'Boys and the Raiders will do almost anything to take up airtime on ESPN/NFL Net.

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