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  1. http://www.nfl.com/videos/move-the-sticks/0ap3000000810754/Top-3-Breakout-Sophomores-Offense #3 - Paul Perkins, RB - NY Giants #2 - Austin Hooper, TE - Atlanta Falcons - "Hooper is getting more comfortable in Year#2, being on same page w/ Matt Ryan, We saw him step-up in post-season, I think he takes another big step this year - 3 TDs last year, I think he gets to 9-10 TDs this year - I think he is due for a BIG year" - Daniel Jeremiah. "One thing we know is Matt Ryan loves to throw to everybody in that offense, he will distribute the ball to anyone who is open - Austin Hooper got open a lot last year, I agree and I think 9-10 TDs is do-able." - Bucky Brooks #1 - Corey Coleman, WR - Cleveland Browns
  2. The old trade chart for the top 10 picks in the draft valued them like they were franchise type (Andrew Luck) dynasty players (or perceived to be) - I agree w/ you their Larry. However, outside the top 10 picks in the draft, I believe the old trade chart has held up rather well and mostly did so in our two trades.
  3. A popular narrative is "the old trade value charts are not relevant anymore" - or "they don't matter", etc. I thought it would be interesting to examine the two Falcons draft trades and see how they compared to the draft chart. Here are the results: Falcons/Seattle Trade: The Atlanta Falcons traded up 5 spots in the first round to select Takkarist McKinley. Here is how it breaks down: Seattle Trades: #1-26 = 700 points Atlanta Trades: #1-31(600 points) + #3-95(120 points) + #7-249(1 point) = 721 points The difference in value is 21 points which is equivalent of the #175 pick in draft (very late 5th rounder) g-dawg:As you can see, Falcons paid somewhat of a small premium to get their guy in Takk in the first round. I hate losing any value of draft ammo in a trade but overpaying by basically an early 6th rounder is a small price to pay to get your guy. Falcons/Buffalo Trade: The Atlanta Falcons traded down 12 spots and out of the back of the 2nd round into the early middle part of round #3. Here is analysis: Atlanta Trades: #2-63(276 points) Buffalo Trades: #3-75(215 points) + #5-149(31.4 points) + #5-156(28.6 points) = 275 points g-dawg: As you can see here, Falcons got basically EXACT value for the 2nd round pick which indicates an equal level of "we can stay here or go" and Buffalo, if you want it, you gotta give us equal value. I love this trade because looking at who went from #63-74, I don't see a player that I believe the Falcons would have taken over Duke Riley. So basically, if that were true, that would mean we got Damonte Kazee and Brian Hill for free - sweet lil' move even if all we got back was equal value per draft trade chart. g-dawg conclusion: The old NFL Draft Value chart is still very much reviewed and is at least a starting point for trade negotiations.
  4. Julio Jones and Mohamed Sanu named NFL’s best wide receiver duo 8 NEW, 8 Give it up for Julio Jones who, like in real games, is carrying 99% of this. by Matthew Chambers@FalcoholicMatt May 23, 2017, 7:00am PDT TWEET The offseason is a silly time where people debate things like best long snapper, the 3rd string tight end most likely to blow up, and the best wide receiver duo. Fox Sports football writer Peter Schrager thinks the best wide receiver duo is Julio Jones and whoever is technically the next wide receiver since there needs to be a duo. There is little doubt that Jones is easily the best wide receiver in the league. Season after season we have seen that he is simply unstoppable. He’s not even human. Sanu, on the other hand, is absolutely human. He took a backseat to Taylor Gabriel late in the season, and is widely expected to be pushed to the WR3 spot. Still, he showed good hands and came through in the clutch a few times last season. It’s nothing to be too excited about, which shows how much of this vote Julio is commanding. There seem to be fewer and fewer teams that can keep together two top wide receivers while paying for a quarterback. The Denver Broncos did it briefly with Emmanuel Sanders and Demaryius Thomas. The Falcons did it briefly with Roddy White and Julio. It’s tough to maintain, but the Falcons should be in the running for best wide receiver duo as long as Julio stays healthy and there is physically another wide receiver playing across from him.
  5. Arthur Blank to Dan Quinn and Thomas Dimitroff: "I want you on every NFLN and ESPN show, I want you on local news at noon, six and eleven - we got some PSL's to sell - now get your azzes out of Flowery Branch and - sell, sell, sell!!!!!
  6. I was all excited when I saw how hot this thread was about our Sophmore, potential breakout Tight End. Little did I know it was just a giant pizzing contest.
  7. yes, this is where I think our improvement comes in 2017 on this offense - getting Austin Hooper more involved. He should be ready to shine this year - good call by Jeremiah.
  8. Dan Quinn talks about Jack Crawford’s role, disruptive ability 25 NEW, 25 In a brief film session posted on the team’s Twitter feed, Dan Quinn dives in on his newest defensive tackle. by Dave Choate May 21, 2017, 9:00am PDT TWEET The Jack Crawford signing was kind of big news earlier this offseason, and at the time, it only seemed like big news because the Falcons had one of their quieter free agency periods in recent memory. As Dan Quinn sits down and talks a little bit about him, though, you get a better picture of why the team liked him and what they’ll expect him to do. The team put out a short video film session with Quinn on Twitter, and it’s a cool mini-glimpse at how Quinn is evaluating his players. It also further confirms, as the team has suggested before, that Crawford will primarily be playing defensive tackle after splitting his time between end and tackle over the last few seasons. Crawford should be behind several players in the pecking order, but if he’s exclusively playing defensive tackle, there should still be plenty of snaps available for him behind Grady Jarrettand Dontari Poe. Hopefully he’ll be a force for good in this growing Falcons defense. http://www.atlantafalcons.com/media-lounge/videos/Film-Study-Quinn-Breaks-Down-Poe-Signing/dd529a35-5969-4b04-911a-6e5cfe1eb2ae ^^^^film study on Jack Crawford - looks like he will be a situational DTackle in passrush. G-Dawg: While I certainly am not predicting "break-out stardom" for a 28 year old journeyman DE/DT, it does say something that Dan Quinn targeted Jack Crawford very early in free agency and gave him a 3yr, $8.8mm deal which raised some eyebrows. I see him as a NASCAR package type of rotational passrushing defensive tackle capable of 3-5 sacks per year(with limited snaps) but lots of interior pressure and an ability to get upfield and collapse the pocket for opposing QBs that thrive on a clean pocket up the middle - especially short guys like Drew Brees. Dan Quinn is, at his core, a Defensive Line coach - and when he puts his name on a defensive lineman, I'm going to pay attention. We may even be overstocked on the defensive line right now - there is going to be a lot of competition - iron sharpens iron.
  9. If Falcons were determined to take an offensive guard, they would have taken Dan Feeney or Dorian Johnson at #63 and not traded the pick - they passed. If you were going to pass on them at #63, then it was not that big of a priority. Both Feeney and Johnson were expected to go late 2nd to mid 3rd round.
  10. Julio > OBJ Marshall >> Sanu no question the biggest gap is between Marshall and Sanu.
  11. yeah but neither can our guys. NOBODY can.
  12. @ Vandy - yeah, I like Reuben Foster a ton as well - I remember last year when everyone was salivating for Reggie Ragland - I said I liked Reuben Foster much more and not too many people were that excited for Foster. Dude is a much better player than Ragland - plays so much faster and is a 3-down backer versus a 2-down backer.
  13. i thought so.... I liked Dorian a lot - still somewhat skeptical of Harlow. Could be a big deal - could end up being a wash. time will tell.
  14. yeah, I don't know that it changes the equation that much. Only a handful of 3rd round comp picks most years - although there were a whopping 11 this year. The values of most rounds in 4th-7th go down about 1/2 round as the draft is basically 8 rounds with the comp picks.
  15. Julio should be able to play at high level for three more years - then he will start fading. Father time is UNDEFEATED.
  16. I love our #1(Julio) having it all - size/speed/route running I love our #2(Sanu) having size/route running and physical nature I love our #3(Gabriel) being a speed ball that can get downfield and take the jet sweep/quick screen/gadget plays Our receivers compliment each other well - but Julio makes the other two better for sure with him drawing coverage.
  17. agreed. I still think we will want one more passrusher when we get to the 2018 offseason - and maybe an upgrade at Free Safety - like you said. We may or may not need another offensive lineman - time will tell. Starting in 2018 and for the next 3-4 years, it is going to be about roster management and locking up your core players while adding young talented depth to serve an apprenticeship for 2-3 years before maybe replacing a vet.
  18. that is right - w/ JJ, so much coverage is rolled his way that it opens things up for Sanu, Gabriel and the Tight End. Probably helps the backs out of the backfield as well.
  19. the rest.....only gave Tampa a "B" - hard to believe - generally everyone gives Tampa an "A" - as do I. Carolina Panthers What went right The Panthers were able to build a deep pass rush for relatively cheap. Even after trading Kony Ealy to the Patriots, the Panthers are stout at defensive end with players on below-market deals. Carolina was able to hold onto the wildly underrated Mario Addison, who has 22 sacks over the past three seasons, by giving him a three-year deal worth $22.5 million with just $9 million in guarantees. Charles Johnson, who took a $3 million deal last season to stay in Carolina, picked up a modest raise by jumping to two years and $8 million with just $2.8 million in guarantees. The returning Julius Peppers finished the trio out by taking a one-year, $3.5 million contract to presumably finish his career where it started. He had 7.5 sacks and 11 knockdowns in a limited role for the Packers last season. Throw in Wes Horton and third-round pick Daeshon Hall, who might end up as an edge-setter on early downs and an interior rusher in passing situations, and you have a rotation with all kinds of interesting pieces. They locked up Kawann Short. In the absence of a true star defensive end, the Panthers needed to pay their best pass-rusher, even if he comes from the interior. Short is a consistent disruptor against overmatched guards and centers, having racked up 10 or more knockdowns in each of his four seasons. The only 4-3 defensive tackles with more tackles for loss against the run last season were Aaron Donald, Alan Branch and Michael Bennett. Short was able to extract $51 million over the first three years of his deal, which is right in line with the $47.8 million Fletcher Cox picked up over the first three years of his extension after you account for the rise in the salary cap between 2016 and 2017. Short is unlikely to be a bargain at that rate, but the Panthers needed to retain young talent after giving away Josh Norman last offseason. The Panthers paid a premium to sign oft-injured tackle Matt Kalil, who has started only three games the past two seasons. Wesley Hitt/Getty Images What went wrong The Matt Kalil contract. You can understand why the Panthers would want a left tackle, given how Michael Oher missed 13 games with a serious concussion and might not be able to play in 2017. The Panthers also lost right tackle Mike Remmers to the Vikings during free agency and the draft was historically thin along the offensive line, making their need for tackle help even more pressing. They've had success buying low on unwanted players like Oher in years past, so it's reasonable to think that general manager Dave Gettleman would trust his coaching staff's ability to make chicken soup out of chicken feathers. You can understand why the Panthers might pursue Matt Kalil, especially because his brother, Ryan, is their star center. Price matters, though, and the Panthers paid a heavy premium for a player who has seen a promising career sapped by injuries. He really hasn't been an effective tackle since his rookie season in 2012, and he has been downright awful during stretches over the ensuing few seasons. Kalil was playing through pain and underwent multiple offseason knee surgeries in Minnesota before undergoing season-ending hip surgery after two games last season. Giving Kalil a one-year contract with incentives or the sort of one-plus-an-option deals Russell Okung and Kelvin Beachum signed last season would have been one thing. Instead, though, the Panthers bit big. Kalil's listed five-year, $55.5 million deal is a misnomer, but it's realistically either a one-year, $13.6 million contract or a two-year, $25.5 million deal at its low end. Andrew Whitworth, who is older but has been one of the best tackles in football over the past several seasons, was able to rack up only $23 million on the first two years of his deal with the Rams, and even that deal has more flexibility than Kalil's in the short term. It's hard to find a worse contract handed out in free agency this offseason. What's next? Re-sign Trai Turner. The Panthers are likely ruing that they weren't able to lock up their star guard before the market for interior linemen took a leap forward in free agency. The two-time Pro Bowler is another one of the stars from the same LSU offense that produced Odell Beckham Jr., Jarvis Landry and Jeremy Hill in the 2014 draft, and given that Turner still hasn't even turned 24, he's going to get an enormous contract if the Panthers don't keep him from free agency. The franchise tag is unlikely, too, because it's tied to the far more lucrative compensation of tackles and will be in excess of $15 million in 2018. The Browns gave Kevin Zeitler a five-year, $60 million deal with $23 million guaranteed at signing and $38 million over the first three years of his deal. Zeitler is also already 27 and has yet to make a Pro Bowl during his career. If Turner is suiting up for the Panthers in 2018, it may very well be as the highest-paid guard in the league Grade: C+ New Orleans Saints What went right The Saints devoted draft picks toward fixing their pass defense. It's not exactly a secret that the Jairus Byrd era did not go well for the Saints. The former Bills ball hawk had a nightmare run in New Orleans. A pass defense that ranked sixth in the league by DVOA before Byrd arrived fell to 27th, 32nd and 29th during Byrd's three years in the Bayou. Byrd was released this offseason and remains a free agent, but he was not the only problem. Fellow free-agent addition Brandon Browner was a disaster in 2015. New Orleans's draft picks have been a disaster, with 2014 second-rounder Stanley Jean-Baptiste released after four games with the team and 2015 third-rounder P.J. Williams missing 30 of his first 32 game thanks to injury. Safety Kenny Vaccaro took a major step backward before returning to form over the past year. The only players emerging from the Saints' backfield with significant credit are CFL refugee Delvin Breaux and street free agent Sterling Moore, who was signed out of desperation last September. With little salary-cap space, the only way the Saints were going to fix their secondary was by investing more draft picks into solving the problem. After spending a second-round pick on Vonn Bell last year, New Orleans doubled down by using its first-round pick on cornerback Marshon Lattimore before adding safety Marcus Williams in the following round. It also used third-round picks on Alex Anzalone, who figures to serve as a coverage linebacker if he can stay healthy, and Trey Hendrickson, who will compete for snaps as a reserve pass-rusher. Now you can picture a world in which Williams is lining up in center field, Vaccaro is attacking the line of scrimmage, Bell is possibly working as a hybrid corner/safety, and Breaux and Lattimore are above-average cornerbacks on the outside. It might not work, and it'll probably take some time for the young talent to come together, but there's at least a coherent plan here. New Orleans picked the draft's top cornerback in Marshon Lattimore, who should help a porous pass defense. Bill Streicher/USA TODAY Sports They signed Adrian Peterson on the cheap. It's entirely possible that AD is done after missing virtually all of the 2016 season with a knee injury, but it seems foolish to count out the 32-year-old given what happened the last time he suffered a knee injury. Peterson returned from a torn ACL during his age-29 campaign and promptly won league MVP, running for 2,097 yards with Christian Ponder at quarterback. He slipped a bit over the ensuing three seasons, but his quasi-missed season wasn't injury related, and Peterson was still good enough in 2015 behind a terrible offensive line to lead the league in rushing and make the All-Pro team. He doesn't have to be that good to justify the two-year, $7 million pact he signed with the Saints in April. Peterson replicates much of Mark Ingram's skill set, which could be a problem, but the Saints did manage to find 133 carries for backup Tim Hightower during what was a relatively healthy season for Ingram in 2016. With the investments made along the offensive line -- the Saints signed guard Larry Warford to a reasonable four-year deal and spent their first-round pick on future right tackle Ryan Ramczyk -- they should be able to piece together a more balanced offense in 2017. What went wrong They traded up to grab ... another running back? It's difficult to win trades in which you deal a future pick in a higher round for a pick in a current round. The Saints have made that sort of trade for a running back before, sending their 2011 second-round pick and a 2012 first-rounder to the Patriots for the pick they used on Ingram. The Patriots turned those picks and a third-round selection into Shane Vereen and Chandler Jones. Even as Ingram has turned around his career, you can see why the Saints might regret that swap. It was surprising given how the Saints have locked up Ingram and signed Peterson, then, to see them trade their 2018 second-round pick to get a third-round pick and draft Alvin Kamara. Kamara profiles as a receiving back who could play a limited role in the Saints' offense as early as this season, but they just aren't really in a position where they should be trading up to grab third-string running backs. They've too often made mistakes in trading up for talent, and they need as many cheap players as they can get. It's hard to believe that they wouldn't have been better off staying put and using their picks at 76 or 103 on Kamara or eventual Eagles draftee Donnel Pumphrey. Alternately, they could have made a move for Jamaal Charles, who signed an incentive-laden one-year deal with the Broncos shortly after the draft. Travaris Cadet is still on the roster too, and the Saints could have used their second-round pick next year to look at a running back of the future. Max Unger is hurt. Unger has stayed relatively healthy during his Saints tenure after the Jimmy Graham trade, missing just one game in two seasons, but he completed just two full seasons in six as a Seahawks player and could miss the beginning of the regular season after undergoing foot surgery in May. Unger is tentatively expected to return in September, but if he has any setbacks, it would behoove the Saints to take a look at Nick Mangold, who is the top center remaining on the market. Every team can have a player get hurt, of course, but it's really telling to see just how many players on this roster have a long history of injuries, either as pros or heading into their pro careers. In this draft class alone, Lattimore has a long history of hamstring troubles, while fellow first-round pick Ramczyk is coming off hip surgery in January. Kamara has knee injuries in his past. Anzalone struggled through shoulder injuries in college before breaking an arm last season. The Saints have taken risks on red-flagged amateurs like Hau'oli Kikaha in the past, and even relatively healthy college athletes such as Williams and Sheldon Rankins have had injuries pop up after joining the team. Injuries, not talent, are the biggest problem holding back the Saints. What's next? Another extension for Drew Brees. The Saints signed Brees to a one-year, $24.3 million extension last offseason to avoid putting themselves at risk of losing him to unrestricted free agency, but in doing so, they added three automatically voiding years to the end of the new contract. The Saints will owe $18 million in dead money for Brees on their 2018 cap if he leaves town, which would be disastrous on both a professional and economic level. They will pay $13.4 million in dead money on their cap this year, the fifth-highest total in the league, and that number isn't falling anytime soon. The only way out of this immediate mess is to keep spending and give Brees another contract extension. Re-signing Brees is a totally reasonable and logical move, but that massive amount of dead money only serves to create additional leverage for the 38-year-old quarterback, who could basically justify asking for a percentage of the team at this point. The Saints, meanwhile, continue to treat the cap and the financial element of team-building like they intend on becoming the cautionary tale in a Michael Lewis novel. Grade: B Tampa Bay Buccaneers What went right The Bucs added weapons for Jameis Winston. At points last season, the Bucs were down their No. 2 wideout (Vincent Jackson), their nominal No. 1 tight end heading into training camp (Austin Seferian-Jenkins), their top two running backs (Doug Martin and Charles Sims), and their biggest free-agent addition along the offensive line (J.R. Sweezy). It was a testament to Winston, receiver Mike Evans and coach Dirk Koetter that the Bucs were able to piece together an offense that finished a respectable 18th in DVOA. Tampa shouldn't be as injury-hit this year, but it's going to be deeper and have a far higher ceiling on offense. The Bucs added a deep threat in 30-year-old wideout DeSean Jackson, who should be able to retain most of his speed and resulting value over what amounts to a two-year, $23.5 million contract. At tight end, the Bucs will supplement the surprising Cameron Brate with first-round pick O.J. Howard, who offers enormous upside, albeit with a coach whose offenses haven't used tight ends as primary targets frequently. It's hard to imagine Evans being more productive than he was in 2016 because the former seventh overall pick was targeted a league-high 173 times, but he won't need to be. They finally worked on the safety position. The last line of defense has been a perennial headache for the Bucs, who have tried to get by with limited options like Chris Conte and Major Wright at times over the past few years after their big-money duo of Mark Barron and Dashon Goldson flamed out. It was a bit of a surprise to see the Buccaneers move on from Bradley McDougald, who ended up signing with the Seahawks after developing nicely in Tampa, but the Bucs should be set at safety in 2017. J.J. Wilcox was imported from the Cowboys and should serve as a natural box safety, while second-round pick Justin Evans has the athleticism to play as a deeper safety in center field. There may be hiccups, but Evans and Wilcox are the most promising safety duo Tampa has rolled out on the way to training camp since, well, Barron and Goldson. If Vernon Hargreaves III takes another step forward in his second year, and 32-year-old Brent Grimes continues to defy age after having a stunning return to form last season, Tampa's secondary could sneak up on opposing offenses. A good defensive backfield can come in handy in a division with the Falcons and Saints. A year after rushing for 1,402 yards, Doug Martin had only 421 in 2016. Reinhold Matay/USA TODAY Sports What went wrong They let the Doug Martin situation slide. The decision to hand Martin a five-year, $35.8 million deal last offseason was foolish at the time, as Martin had struggled with injuries and inconsistency during his rookie contract. Martin proceeded to have one of the worst years imaginable, averaging 2.9 yards per carry while missing six games with an injury. He was a healthy scratch in Week 16 before the Bucs announced that their starter would be suspended for the next four games after failing a PED test and heading into rehab. The suspension voided the remaining $5.7 million in guaranteed salary on Martin's deal, which seemed to be a precursor to the Bucs releasing Martin and saving money on what appeared to be a mistake of a deal. Instead, the Buccaneers have basically waited out Martin and appear set to go into training camp with the 28-year-old as a key part of their backfield. While they deserve some credit for sticking with a player who was clearly in some level of off-field stress, Martin wouldn't have come close to getting anything like the four-year, $26.5 million deal he's still receiving on the free market this offseason. It's cold, but the Bucs probably should have explored their options and restructured Martin's deal or released him before signing him to a new contract. It's not hard to imagine that the Bucs would have been better by adding somebody like Adrian Peterson, especially given that Peterson's two-year, $7 million deal is nearly as much as Martin will make in 2017 alone. What's next? Sign Mike Evans. While the 23-year-old superstar is still two years away from unrestricted free agency, the Bucs are going to pay their No. 1 wideout superstar money. The only difference is that they're probably better off doing it now, during an offseason when the only star wideout to sign an extension is Antonio Brown. Next year, the wideout market will be reset when players such as DeAndre Hopkins, Allen Robinson and Jarvis Landry are due to hit free agency while fellow 2014 draftee Odell Beckham Jr. enters the fifth-year option of his own deal. Evans is in line to make only a maximum of something like $32.3 million over the next three years, assuming that the cap continues to rise at a similar rate and the Bucs decide to franchise him in 2019. Brown's extension, to contrast, will net him $48.9 million over its first three seasons, and he's a little more than five years older than his Tampa Bay counterpart. If the Bucs can convince Evans to take an early extension, they could save millions of dollars. Grade: B
  20. nice read. reasonable take on our offensive line staying so healthy - hopefully we can have another good run of luck w/ health - and just the health of the team overall. My biggest concern regarding health is Julio Jones - he is such a beast and a warrior but he is really struggling w/ foot injuries - worried (shut your mouth!) that we really might miss him for a chunk of a season one year soon.
  21. agreed. also, it is not like we had holes up and down the roster. As long as we are not losing core players and the players on our roster keep getting better - there will be more minimalist offseasons than many teams with tons of cap space and tons of holes. Falcons are in a sweet position.
  22. thanks dave. I agree w/ your point. The one thing the Falcons had to get done in this draft was walk out of it with a PASSRUSHER that they believed in. As much as I liked T.J. Watt, apparently he was not a scheme fit - and he went in front of Falcons #31 pick anyway. Takk was the last passrusher the Falcons must have liked, and they went and got him - hard to argue it. Dan Quinn knows exactly what he wants in this defense and who are any of us to argue w/ it given the results the last two years. To throw a bouquet of roses TD's way, he has always gotten a good player when he has traded up - Julio Jones, Desmond Trufant & Grady Jarrett - that is a perfect 3-for-3 - so why should we expect any different w/ Takk? To me, if that shoulder is good or better yet - will be good - then I believe we have us a beast capable of 8-10 sacks/yr after his rook year - I believe w/ the injury and missing some of the offseason(like Hooper last year because of California late school release) - that 2017 is gonna be a transition year and I don't expect as much in his first year - would not surprise me if he missed the first 3-4 games of season w/ that torn labrum and glenoid. However, Takk is simply too fast and too driven to fail - I don't see failure as an option for him.
  23. basically the first round trade begat the second round trade. IF you liked the 1st round pick(Takk) and you like the 3rd round pick(Duke) - that Dimitroff said they were prepared to take at #63 - then at that point you basically gave up a late 3rd rounder(#95) for two early 5th rounders - so you are losing some value there - but not a whole h#lluva lot. It is not like we drafted 3 players - Falcons drafted 6 guys - which helps w/ our depth as all appear likely to make the team. Takk - instant nickel passrusher Duke - instant nickel linebacker and special teams ace Harlow - probably a back-up interior guard for both RG and LG and probably stays on 53 man roster so he cannot be poached - much like Schweizer last year. Kazee - expect him to battle for playing time this year as nickel corner and free safety Brian Hill - likely a special teams player and #3 RB - could be #2 RB in two years E. Saubert - battle for #3 TE job and if he does not make it will be on Practice Squad I would say the cost of the 1st round trade was the downgrade from Dorian Johnson(OG-Pitt) to Pat Harlow(OG-Oregon State). I would have preferred Dorian Johnson who went in the first 10 picks of 4th round on Day#3. If Schweizer is the real deal and Harlow develops in a year or two, then I don't worry too much about it but would have been nice to have drafted Dorian Johnson - not sure why he fell to 4th round as I thought he was a mid 3rd rounder all day long. Considering we picking at the end of every round and we only had 6 picks heading into the draft, to come out of this draft with a potential "Robin"(Takk) to "Batman"(Beasley) and another stud nickel linebacker - I did not think it was a bad result at all. As long as Takk and Duke are the real deal, you will ultimately be happy in the long run - probably at least 1 and maybe 2 of the other 4 will develop - my guess is Brian Hill and Damonte Kazee.